1st Test Cycle

stompie1
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26 Sep 2013 14:13 #152111 by stompie1

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Hi Guys,

Stats:
Age 37
Bodyfat% 10
Height 1.76m
Weight 81Kg

My diet is in order. My training consists of weight training 6 days a week(for past 7yrs), cardio +-1.5hrs every day. My planning cycle would be for ten weeks:

Test Cyp(PGW)250mg/week pinning Mon & Thurs.
Week 1-10
Anavar week 5-12 @ 60mg a day
Proviron 60mg week 1-12
HCG 250IUx2/week starting week 4.
PCT 2

My question:
- I am lowering my dose of test seeing that I want to put on lean muscle and cut, is that correct in your opinion? I want to minimise weight gain if possible to about 4-5Kg.
- Must I start Anavar from day one and bridge with winnie or stick to this proposal?

Please guys your input would be greatly appreciated.

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Fakey_AK
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26 Sep 2013 14:25 #152112 by Fakey_AK

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Hey Stompie

Is this your first cycle or first cycle with test?

The weight gain on cycle will all depend on your diet and I can also guarantee you, you won't put on 4-5kg's and still get cut with that proposed cycle.

Rather bump the Test to 500mg and just lean bulk, gaining lbm while keeping your body fat constant.

"The hardest lift of all, is your ass of the couch!"

"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." - Samuel Johnson

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Oupa
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26 Sep 2013 14:47 #152115 by Oupa

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stompie1 wrote:
Test Cyp(PGW)250mg/week pinning Mon & Thurs.
Week 1-10
A

Stompie, will that be 250mg Monday and 250mg Tuesday ? or 250mg weekly ?

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mike123
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26 Sep 2013 15:00 #152117 by mike123

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500mg a week is the conservative / sweet spot boet otherwise u might be disapointed...iwould do the anavar as a bridge for 50 days .....

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stompie1
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26 Sep 2013 15:35 #152119 by stompie1

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@mike123 thanks.

@oupa, ja oupa 250mg/week, ek wil graag sny en nie bulk muscle optel, wat dink jy? Thanks for your input oupa, much appreciated.

@Fakey_Ak, yes my first cycle on test.

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Oupa
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26 Sep 2013 15:54 - 26 Sep 2013 16:08 #152123 by Oupa

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Stompie, mense het die verkeerde idee van testosterone/steroids. Dit wat Fakey gese het is 100% reg. Jy sny of cut met die eet plan op jou cycle en nie die hoeveelheid steriode nie.

Jou cycle lyk goed, maar ek het dit so bietjie verander.

Test Cyp 500mg per week. Week 1 - 10 pin Mon 1ml & Thu 1ml
Proviron 40mg per day. Week 1 to 14
Anavar 60mg per day. Week 8 to 14
HCG soos jy dit het.

PCT 2 begin 2 dae na jou laaste cap Anavar & Proviron.

.........

As jy kompeteer in body building of fitness dan is jou cycles en diets n perd van n ander kleur...

Last edit: 26 Sep 2013 16:08 by Oupa. Reason: edit spel

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Pyroclasm
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26 Sep 2013 18:07 #152130 by Pyroclasm

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Are you a professional athlete? I am trying to understand your training..

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stompie1
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26 Sep 2013 21:03 #152150 by stompie1

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@pyro no pyro just do triathlon and trying to keep fit all year around was a big sportsman when I was younger.
@oupa should I still do the hcg in pct 2 if I bring it in earlier? And if I want to do fitness shows what would you suggest?
And another thing oupa what would you suggest I keep handy for gyno I read somewhere in a post you reply to saying that letro onli helps for prolactin gyno, and arimidex? Should I get both or only the one?

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Oupa
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26 Sep 2013 21:34 - 26 Sep 2013 21:37 #152152 by Oupa

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Stompie.

You do not use a substance that can cause prolactin gyno so Arimidex or Letro will be perfect. if you used any 19nor hormones like Tren or Nandrolin then you needed cabaser.

So get what you can afford, Letro is cheaper than Adex. Personally i prefer Arimidex.

If you use HCG in cycle, you shouldn't need it in pct. Each one recovers differently so lets see when you get there.

As for the fitness shows, that is a marathon and takes time with a shit load of discipline towards your training, diet and supplements. Different game all together.

Not even going to get into body building as 99.5% of people will fail attempting it.

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stompie1
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26 Sep 2013 21:47 #152156 by stompie1

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Thanks alot oupa I would get adex then.

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Pyroclasm
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26 Sep 2013 22:34 #152164 by Pyroclasm

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You are gonna have to decrease the cardio if you want any decent chance of putting on mass. All that cardio is going to absolutely slaughter your gains.

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stompie1
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26 Sep 2013 22:49 #152167 by stompie1

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Pyro even with a proper diet and sufficient protein intake?

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Oupa
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26 Sep 2013 22:59 #152168 by Oupa

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Plot your training program then we can see. Cardio 1.5 hours a day doing what ?

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stompie1
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27 Sep 2013 05:32 #152180 by stompie1

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Swimming and cycling, in the winter cycling and in summer both in one day.
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Rhino
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27 Sep 2013 06:02 #152181 by Rhino

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Ye far to much cardio for decent gains.
Most of us won't do more than 20minutes 4 times a week, your body needs to rest to grow

Go big or go home...

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stompie1
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27 Sep 2013 06:09 #152182 by stompie1

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Thank guys for all your input, one last thing. I heard Anavar is bad for the hairline, is there anything I can take to minimise this?

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mike123
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27 Sep 2013 07:19 #152184 by mike123

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just remember if u are on cycle and want to cut u wont loose muscle doing a lot of cardio
if u are prone to hairloss then there is very little u can do.....anavar however has the least amount of sides effects ......have a read in the articles sect .....

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Pyroclasm
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27 Sep 2013 14:21 #152220 by Pyroclasm

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stompie1 wrote: Pyro even with a proper diet and sufficient protein intake?

Yeah bud. Unless you can scoff down 5000 cals then it shouldn't be a problem.

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stompie1
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08 Oct 2013 05:24 #153267 by stompie1

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Guys I want your advice please, I am currently on the 1ml Test Cyp 250 twice a week, with the proviron 40mg /day but my libido is up the sky, as horny as a dog on heat. :lol: :lol: I know that the advice I am gonna ask is gonna sound silly to some of you but I don't like being this horny, with my previous incident with the Nandrolene(100mg/week) I had very little libido, which I loved. My question is: The proviron that I take, if I leave that, would it supress the libido a bit? Is the proviron only for the libido issues on any cycle? Can I leave it out completely even when I go onto the Var? Please can you guys advice me.

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mike123
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08 Oct 2013 07:27 #153273 by mike123

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Haha u have good product ...some say the prov kills libido after a few weeks ...but if u want to leave out thats ok but it could be the cyp .....

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Pyroclasm
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08 Oct 2013 10:03 #153292 by Pyroclasm

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Proviron is known to boost libido significantly so yes if you feel you are too 'jags' then leave out the Proviron.

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stompie1
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08 Oct 2013 11:37 #153312 by stompie1

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: thanks pyro that is the word I wanted to use, I actually wanted to say "SUPER JAGS" it is that bad. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks guys

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