Var and eca advice for Noob

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07 Oct 2013 15:28 #153221 by Liftmeister
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Hi Guys

Stats:
Age=30
H = 1.7m
W= 85 Kg
BF%= 13
Training experience = 8 yrs, with the last year being consistent with diet and all

Currently im carb cycling the lowest being 30g Carbs, 30g Fat, Protien240
High carb days doesn’t exceed 80grams while Protein and fat stays relatively the same

I switch training routines every 2-3 weeks

Bench @ 120kg 6 reps no spot
Deadlift @ 160kg
Squat @ 120kg

I done a cutting cycle (without gear) December last yr up until Feb and got too thin because I didn’t have sufficient muscle mass then stopped and started a bulk.. naturally up until now. For my goal im nearly where I want to be. Initially I wanted to Bulk up with my first cycle Being Test but @ the time I wasn’t comfortable pinning yet so I thought ill try naturally first and see. Surprisingly I didn’t do too bad. Im endomorph BT btw

My ques as follow

Id like to do an Anavar and eca stack cycle..
Ive done eca before so I know what to expect more or less

My plan = 6 week cycle: I will probably taper just to see how my body reacts ( I know its not necessary as per what ive read) so start with 40mg ED for first week up until 60mg for the rest of the 5 weeks
My connection gets the LP brand and he assures me that its good stuff for 20mg per tab for 50 tabs

Pct would be PCT 2 if im correct but heres my que just outa curiosity

Is it necessary to add clomid to PCT even though Var is such a “so called”mild anabolic?

Please correct me on anything and please share your advice and opinions.. I apologise in advance if I missed anything

And big thanks to Admin for such a speedy response

Thanks

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07 Oct 2013 15:49 #153230 by mike123
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Do as u say or start at 60 mg for 6 or 8 weeks pct 1 = clomid and nolva or 3 bottles by 50 days u can add proviron if u want as well ...

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08 Oct 2013 11:49 #153317 by Liftmeister
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Thanks

Do i add in the proviron during cycle and is 40mg a day ok?

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22 Oct 2013 11:58 #154463 by Liftmeister
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Thought id just add to this thread. My gear will be arriving this weekend. However my supplier has given me a choice between IPCA and Kefei Var. which would be the better choice in your opinions?

Any help is appreciated thanks

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22 Oct 2013 12:11 #154466 by Oupa
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Shit, If that's your only 2 options go for Keifei(Anavabol)

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22 Oct 2013 12:16 #154467 by Liftmeister
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Oupa wrote: Shit, If that's your only 2 options go for Keifei(Anavabol)


Wait.. why you saying "Shit"? lol

Now im worried!!!

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22 Oct 2013 12:23 #154469 by Oupa
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Read this topic about IPCA

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/6-stero...s/122201-ipca#153809

And then

I have used Keifei's anavar, its ok.. Some batches are good , other not.

a Wise man once said - Flip a coin and go with your heart ;)

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22 Oct 2013 12:39 #154473 by Liftmeister
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Wow!!! thanks man

Ok i just spoke to the guy now and he said he has Var from EU pharmaceuticals as well and swears by it.. your take on this?

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22 Oct 2013 12:50 #154474 by Oupa
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Is their var called oxandrolic ?

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22 Oct 2013 12:52 - 22 Oct 2013 12:52 #154475 by Muscleaddict
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EU Pharmaceuticals is just another local underground "lab" who's trying to cash in on cheap Chinese raw steroid powders. The name is just to make them sound like a fancy European brand. They even have the Swiss flag in their logo :lol:. Avoid. Show me one dealer who doesn't swear by his stuff. I would stick with LP and PGW.
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22 Oct 2013 12:55 #154476 by Oupa
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Thank you MA

You stole the moment......

Now on that bombshell we say good night. ;)
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22 Oct 2013 12:59 #154477 by Liftmeister
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Thanks guys!!

I think Ill wait until he gets me either LP or PGW

Im busy reading through EU's website now!!looks legit,flag and all lol

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22 Oct 2013 13:11 #154478 by Muscleaddict
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Yea somehow I think they will have more luck like that than Mzanzi Pharma with the SA Flag.
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01 Nov 2013 16:00 #155605 by Liftmeister
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Hi Guys

Its alweer ek lol

Im still waiting on my LP Var and as usual I read up everyday about AAS diets training etc

Now 95% of everywhere ive read thus far and guys ive Spoken to says to NOT do a first cycle without the use of test for WHATEVER your goal. This is all so confuckulating as there are also some who says they have done the very cycle I want to do and got what they wanted with minimal sides etc

Now just be straight with me lol

I was bulking natty for the past year and now and im concentrating more on diet and cardio to shed the BF I picked up and wanted to be shredded doing var and prov cycle as my diet is going quite well but im noticing small muscle loss along with fat loss.. nevertheless

Should I and can I do this cycle without Test and get results or am I taking a risk of wasting money and so forth? Give it to me straight please man.. not anything theoretically based (coz ive read it all) but experienced based asseblief

Thanks and sorry if this is a stupid que…

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01 Nov 2013 16:45 #155613 by Oupa
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Post a current photo, and a whats your goal photo. Then we can get realistic.

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04 Nov 2013 07:33 #155724 by mike123
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To give u a rough idea A oral only will give aprox 2 to 3kg gains add test and it will be 6 to 8 kg on average if u want to cut without loosing muscle then Anavar and prov without test will do but the bigger the muscle the more fat u burn ....

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04 Nov 2013 10:01 #155747 by Liftmeister
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Oupa wrote: Post a current photo, and a whats your goal photo. Then we can get realistic.


Will post as soon as I get a chance Oups

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06 Nov 2013 16:23 #156149 by maverick919
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Subscribed as this is one of the exact same questions I have...

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06 Nov 2013 18:22 #156169 by manery
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Just add test and then your guaranteed to be satisfied. Test Is cheap bro, why wouldn't you run it?!

"There is no reason to have a plan B because it distracts from plan A" - Phil heath
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