My dbol and test prop cycle

Hey veterans
I'm planning my first dbol test prop cycle...I have 51 dbol blue hearts and 10ml (100mg/ml) test prop from globalanabolic.I also have 1 pack of clomid(10 tabs)

I'm thinking of taking the dbol first for 3weeks and then the test prop for next 3 weeks and then start with clomid a week later

Week 1:dbol 12 tabs. Mon2tabs, Tue2tabs, Wed2tabs, Thu2tabs, Fri2tabs, Sat1tab, Sun1tab (2/2/2/2/2/1/1)
Week2 & 3:dbol 19 tabs p/w. M3, Tu3, W3, Th3, F3, Sat2, Sun2 (3/3/3/3/3/2/2)
Week 4-6test prop:M100 mg, Wed 100mg , Fri 100 mg (100/100/100)

After a week pct clomid @ 50mg. ED

Can anyone advise me on this?do you think I should take testprop and dbol together for 3 weeks (wil I get the same gains etc.?)
Any input appreciated

Your dbol dose is to low and there is no need to pyramid the dbol
Your test prop is an EOD shot of 150mg and 3 weeks is not going to help much

Run a proper cycle of prop and npp for 8 weeks with a PROPER pct if prop tickles your balls, otherwise there are cheaper alternatives.

Also he have not mentioned anything about yourself, age, training, Blah... you get the picture.

kbench, is this your first cycle ? or your first dbol & prop cycle ?

Your cycle doesn't make sense so rather wait before you start anything.

I'm very small, 70kg and 34 years old, I have a nice build and I cut alot,I dont look bad but want to gain some weight and increase muscle size...Last time I checked I had 8.7 % bf ... I have been training for 7 years and have a good diet filled with protein and many calories. ..It feels as if I just keep cutting and ive tried numerous training routines...

A friend gave me this to try out, I have done quite alot of research and many people recommend short cycles, and that 20-30 mg dbol per day for starters is enough.I'm just not sure if I should take them at the same time or if I can split them as I did, I don't have a lot of gear so I'm looking to get the most from what I've got?


This is my first cycle but I've been researching for about 2months non stop, I dont have that much money and got this for free, so I don't really want to buy anything extra but I will if I have to.

Mistake no1. Dont take free gear from friends.

I will assist you because you seem honest about it. So lets make the best from a kak situation.

Tell me exactly how much of what do you have.

Thanx oupa
I've got 10ml (1000mg) test prop, 51 blue heart dianabol tabs (@10mg /tab) and 10 clomid tabs (@ 50 mg/tab)

I know I need an AI so im getting proviron before I start

i think you are not eating enough,if you keep on cutting then you need more food,maybe you have a very fast metabolism and what you think is a lot of cals for the body might not be,just a thought...

let Mr pyro look at what you eat(diet) so he can help if need be.
and then just wait for oupa to try and help with the gear,its not a lot so you might be buying very soon...

good luck.

You need double the dbol and triple the prop, add in nolva as well as an AI.

Normally we don't recommend prop for a first cycle due to the frequency of injections but if you think you can manage then that's fine.

kbench wrote: Thanx oupa
I've got 10ml (1000mg) test prop, 51 blue heart dianabol tabs (@10mg /tab) and 10 clomid tabs (@ 50 mg/tab)

I know I need an AI so im getting proviron before I start

Look, i can be all tough love and give you 1000 reasons why your cycle is all messed up, and many more why Proviron is not gonna help you with gyno, we can get into detail a little later or maybe one of the other members will be so kind to give you a good explanation as to why.....

Please note that this cycle suggestion/correction is not optimized. I am merely trying to sort your current situation out.

Get another 1 x vial of prop.

Do a MINIMUM 6 weeks of prop pinning 1ml Monday / 1ml Wednesday / 1ml Friday. You will get 3 weeks from a vial. 2 x vials = 6 weeks.

If you can afford 2 vials prop , up your dosage to at least 1.2ml per shot.

Then get another 50 dbols, they are very cheap.
Run your dbols at 30mg per day. Split your tabs to one each 1 x Morning 1 x Afternoon 1 x Evening. You have to split your dosages because of the short half life ( 6-8 hours )

As for PCT, you have Clomid.

Run your Clomid 50/50/50/50/100/100/100 (7 days)

Then purchase Novadex, Kessar (Tamoxifen) 30 tabs. (20mg)

You will have to use Nolvadex a tab a day for 30 days.

That the bare minimum that will make your first cycle worth something and a safe PCT for recovery.

My daily calorie intake is about 4000-4500...

Oupa, should I use nolva during or post cycle, when should I start using clomid, a week after cycle?

Test is expensive, but I'll see what I can do

Do you think I can exchange the dianabol for peptides after week 3?

At 70kgs I do not think you are eating 4000-4500 calories and maintaining sub 10% bf. I eat 4500-4800 to bulk and I weigh 94kgs.

kbench wrote: My daily calorie intake is about 4000-4500...

Oupa, should I use nolva during or post cycle, when should I start using clomid, a week after cycle?

Test is expensive, but I'll see what I can do

Do you think I can exchange the dianabol for peptides after week 3?

Start clomid 2 weeks after your cycle and nolva when your clomid is done.

Example here.... Link

I don't think you have the cash to run peptides properly.

The least I take daily is 3500 calories, I manage it easily because I work at a lodge, after each serving (lunch, breakfast, supper) we get to take the leftovers and I keep some for brunch etc, I eat about 6-7 times per day but also have to walk around alot so I think I could be burning a lot

Bru understand that there is a thing called virgin muscle and u have to inject 3 times a week that means sore Ass and legs and then u still have to train ...are u ready for it ?

kbench wrote: My daily calorie intake is about 4000-4500...

Oupa, should I use nolva during or post cycle, when should I start using clomid, a week after cycle?

Test is expensive, but I'll see what I can do

Do you think I can exchange the dianabol for peptides after week 3?

what are your stats again?
You say you are not growing on 4500cals?
That's a lot of food... Are you sure about your calculations ?

Mike, to be honest I'm not someone who cares to much for pain, I play rugby EOD with some east rand guys (if your from gauteng you wil know what I mean) so I'm quite used to pain, I'm not imune though, just tolerant. ..

Bandit, 4500 is a bit excessive, the only time I go that high is when the avocados are ripe, then I eat like 4 per day, mostly its between 3500 and 4000 ,which is stil alot but I'm very active...what other stats do you need?

Diffrant kind of pain boet but let us now how it goes....

Can you advise me on pinnig sites as well as needles for test prop...

I've got 2syringes and 1, 5 inch 24g needles for pinning and 20 g needles for extracting
I heard you need 1 inch needles for quads?

test prop is painfull especially virgin delts, you cant sleep or train properly

At the top of the page there is a articles section that will give all the info in detail..
everytime u inject use a new syringe and needles ...1.5 is fine for legs and butt...

Christian wrote: test prop is painfull especially virgin delts, you cant sleep or train properly

Nou ruk jy die hond se hol uit. Its not that bad lol

Thanx everyone
I'm also looking for a new protein shake, since im doing this steroid thing I might as well do it right, so what do you suggest I take with my cycle in regards to get best possible gains(I think im alowed to ask). I'm thinking a limit of 900?
Also can I keep using my pre workout and other supplements?

Take the R900 and buy more test. Extend your cycle to 10 weeks.

U wont need a PWO with Dbol...any good whey at Disc chem ...I use Evox

Oupa wrote: Take the R900 and buy more test. Extend your cycle to 10 weeks.

solid advice right there..
ps, oupa jys n beast op jou avatar fok.