Lean Bulking cycle

Good day Friends

I'm starting a new cycle in December or in January , just wanna swing it past you guys .

I'm 22 years old 1.85m and 103kgs and lean , gonna take a measuremend on Sunday. My aim is to compete in the juniors next year and go in lean 110 to 115kg. Know its a long shot , but giving it my all!

Week 1-6. Test prop 100mg per week
Week 1-12 Equpoise 700mg per week
Week 1-12 Supertest 525mg per week
Week 1-12 Tren Ace 100mg EOd

Pct 3 and Armdex when needed .

I'm gonna start a cycle log when I start my cycle .


Thanks in advance!

Why dont you run the supertest from week one because it contains prop.
Kickstart the cycle with Tbol.
Tren for 12 weeks is a bit rough, rather run it from the last pin of supertest while you wait for the esters to clear.
So that would be 45 days of tren ace.

Trarex wrote: Why dont you run the supertest from week one because it contains prop.

He is going to. Read again

Sorry :dry: ! But still I would kickstart with Tbol since he is already getting prop from the supertest.

I think he made a few mistakes with his post.

The prop from the supertest is 40mg. That is not enough and he has a good idea to load prop @ 100mg but it should be 100mg EOD and not per week.

(Tbol is always a good idea) but lets see what he meant.

Trarex wrote: ...Tren for 12 weeks is a bit rough......

12 Weeks in i make some of the best gains.

Okay gents reason for Front loading with test prop , u will get better resuls up to week 6 EoD like Oupa said aswell I have used Tbol and didn't work that good. For me .

My aim is to pack on as mutch size as possible and as lean as possible

I would not end everything on week 12, Hormone shock delux. Extend your test with 2 weeks and what about adding something for a bridge.

Or you can run test prop again from week 10 - 14 and cancel the Equi long ester wait time for pct. (if no bridge)

I'm thinking about running super test and equipoise for 15 weeks and then use anavar on my brigde .

You can yes, sounds good. Only thing that i dont like so much is the short esters for extended times. You will have better results running test E or test C with long esters over extended time.

So for example

Prop to start off with and E or C to extend to 15 weeks.

Oupa wrote: You can yes, sounds good. Only thing that i dont like so much is the short esters for extended times. You will have better results running test E or test C with long esters over extended time.

So for example

Prop to start off with and E or C to extend to 15 weeks.

okay so I'm gonna replace the super test with test Enth and do the test prop for week 1-6 , will I still need Tbol for Week 1-4 ?

Yes run the tbol for 5 weeks. 60mg ED. Split dose 40/20 or 20/40 morning & evening.

Oupa wrote: Yes run the tbol for 5 weeks. 60mg ED. Split dose 40/20 or 20/40 morning & evening.

Want to know if the split 20/40 or 40/20 will offer an advantage over regular 20/20/20?

Megusta wrote:

Oupa wrote: Yes run the tbol for 5 weeks. 60mg ED. Split dose 40/20 or 20/40 morning & evening.

Want to know if the split 20/40 or 40/20 will offer an advantage over regular 20/20/20?

Good day gents ,

Your body wil handle it beter if the dosages is spread ou evenly throughout the day and not so hectic on your liver , that's my opinion as I've tried it . I've heard some people pop 60mg half a hour before training
Hope it helps !

Tbol's half life is 16 hours, you dont need to run it 20/20/20.

There is no significant difference running a higher dosage mornings or evenings. 40/20 or 20/40/

What i do recommend is use the 40 depending on when you train.

Oupa wrote: Tbol's half life is 16 hours, you dont need to run it 20/20/20.

There is no significant difference running a higher dosage mornings or evenings. 40/20 or 20/40/

What i do recommend is use the 40 depending on when you train.

Jammer Oupa seker dom vraag , ma sal dit mens help om beter workouts te he as jy 40 mgs vat en kan j dit saam lunch vat ?

Taking oral anabolic steroids with food may decrease its bio-availability.

This is caused by the fat-soluble nature of steroid hormones, which can allow some of the drug to dissolve with undigested dietary fat, reducing its absorption from the gastrointestinal tract.

For maximum utilization, tbol should be taken on an empty stomach.

Oupa wrote: Tbol's half life is 16 hours, you dont need to run it 20/20/20.

There is no significant difference running a higher dosage mornings or evenings. 40/20 or 20/40/

What i do recommend is use the 40 depending on when you train.

I train 6pm. So i can take my second dose of 40mg at around 5pm?

Yep that's how i ran it and with great results. 20mg first ting in the mornings, and 40mg +- 2 hours before afternoon training.

Okay after some consideraton and research I've decided to change my cycle completely , please let me know what yo think .

Week 1-6 : T-bol @40mg Ed
Week 1-12: Test E @600mg Mon and Thurs
Week 1-12: Equipoise 350@ 700mg mon and thurs
Week 1-6 : Test prop 100mg EOD

Monday & Thursday and then EOD. You are going to get confused and gatvol of pinning.

Somedays will end up as ED pinning lol.

Double front load not needed (tbol&prop), you can double the test E for the first 2 weeks and drop it back to 600mg per week from there onwards.

Oupa wrote: Monday & Thursday and then EOD. You are going to get confused and gatvol of pinning.

Somedays will end up as ED pinning lol.

Double front load not needed (tbol&prop), you can double the test E for the first 2 weeks and drop it back to 600mg per week from there onwards.

Okay op then remove the Tbol and put tran Ace in stead of that ? Will I be able to pin mon 600mg of test E ? Or what did u mean Oupa?

When you calculate EOD pinning for prop, thats

mon, wed, fri, sun, tue, thu, sat, mon, wed bla bla bla....

Then you pin the long esters Mon & Thu. This will give you ED pinning on some days, and thats kak.

You will use tbol as frontload for 6 weeks to wait for test E to kick in, but also pinning prop to prevent the delay from the longer esters.... that is really not necessary, but you can if you want to.

You mentioned tren in your 1st post, but didnt mention tren in your 2nd changed cycle plans ???

Nou wat nou ?

Wag nou eers bietjie....

You have another post where you lust finished letro for gyno, and now you want to start a cycle again ?

Did you use letro on pct or what ? how ?

Hahahahah okay Oupa I've used lectro for 3 months to get my gyno away after I've completed my pct .

I'm just planing my cycle only , the reason for the other thread is simply to know what is the time frame I'm looking at to my next cycle .