Prop- osed second cycle

Hi I've been planning a 2nd cycle lately and this is what id like to do.


1-6 Tbol 80mg/day
1-16 Proviron 60mg/day (Thinking maybe doing Masteron ace?) This is run right up till pct.
2-14 HCG @ 500iu x 2/week (up till 2 weeks before pct starts)
1-6 Test prop 1.5ml EOD
1-12 Npp 150mg EOD
1-12 TestE 600mg/week

Bridge
13-14 Test prop 1.5ml EOD
11-16 Anavar 60mg/day (6weeks. Starts last 2 weeks of cycle)

17- till end pct no3.


*Is it advisable to run the prop and tbol for the kicker?
*Im running 80mg tbol as my last cycle was 60mg and feel i can handle more.
*I want to run npp from the start so that i can do a 12 week cycle. Is 150mg eod enough?
*Its safe to start the npp from week 1 seeing that ill be using prop with it?

Ill be running milkthistle before i start and use Liv52 DS with Essentiale during cycle.

My current stats after first cycle:
Height 186cm
Weight: 101kg
BF: 16%

Im not sure about my strength but after my long break i lost alot of strength but im gaining it back quickly in my natural state. Im almost back at my 70kg(2x 35kg dumbbels) incling for 15 reps.

The tbol and prop kickstarter seems a bit much, what do you want from a kickstart? Maybe consider another coumpound all together?

Why not cut the prop, and frontload the tbol and test E?

I like the tbol, but if i drop the prop, when do i start the npp?

Megusta wrote: Hi I've been planning a 2nd cycle lately and this is what id like to do.




My current stats after first cycle:
Height 186cm
Weight: 101kg
BF: 16%


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Stats before first cycle:
Height 186cm
Weight: 86kg
BF: 13%

Just like you planned....

So then it is the following:

1-6 Tbol 80mg/day
1-16 Proviron 60mg/day (Thinking maybe doing Masteron ace?) This is run right up till pct.
2-14 HCG @ 500iu x 2/week (up till 2 weeks before pct starts)
1-12 Npp 150mg EOD
1-12 TestE 600mg/week

Bridge
13-14 Test prop 1.5ml EOD
11-16 Anavar 60mg/day (6weeks. Starts last 2 weeks of cycle)

17- till end pct no3.


Any comments on the masteron and proviron?


Ill also stack HEAT with my anavar bridge

do masteron or proviron, not both...
loooks like a super nice cycle.

I would prefer masteron.

Thunderbeast wrote: do masteron or proviron, not both...
loooks like a super nice cycle.

I would prefer masteron.

Ya im not planning in both :blink:

Ill take one or the other. If i do masteron, what dosage will work nicely with this cycle?

Masteron prop? between 400 and 500mg

But you can keep to the lower limit, since you are already using anavar.
Maybe even as low as 350mg.

Megusta wrote: So then it is the following:

1-6 Tbol 80mg/day
1-16 Proviron 60mg/day (Thinking maybe doing Masteron ace?) This is run right up till pct.
2-14 HCG @ 500iu x 2/week (up till 2 weeks before pct starts)
1-12 Npp 150mg EOD
1-12 TestE 600mg/week

Bridge
13-14 Test prop 1.5ml EOD
11-16 Anavar 60mg/day (6weeks. Starts last 2 weeks of cycle)

17- till end pct no3.


Any comments on the masteron and proviron?


Ill also stack HEAT with my anavar bridge

Simplified cycle

Test 14 weeks
NPP 12 weeks
Masteron 12 weeks
Stack 3F & Var bridge 6 weeks

HCG from week 4 to pct.

You don't really need a front load with NPP. Although tbol will always be a welcome start.

Oupa wrote:

Megusta wrote: So then it is the following:

1-6 Tbol 80mg/day
1-16 Proviron 60mg/day (Thinking maybe doing Masteron ace?) This is run right up till pct.
2-14 HCG @ 500iu x 2/week (up till 2 weeks before pct starts)
1-12 Npp 150mg EOD
1-12 TestE 600mg/week

Bridge
13-14 Test prop 1.5ml EOD
11-16 Anavar 60mg/day (6weeks. Starts last 2 weeks of cycle)

17- till end pct no3.


Any comments on the masteron and proviron?


Ill also stack HEAT with my anavar bridge

Simplified cycle

Test 14 weeks
NPP 12 weeks
Masteron 12 weeks
Stack 3F & Var bridge 6 weeks

HCG from week 4 to pct.

You don't really need a front load with NPP. Although tbol will always be a welcome start.

Tnx Oups!

So my Cycle will be:
Tbol 80mg/day
Test 14 weeks (Where last 2 weeks will be Prop @ 1.5ml eod)?
NPP 12 weeks @ 150mg eod?
Masteron 12 weeks (12 weeks @ what dose?)
Stack 3F & Var bridge 6 weeks (60mg var)

HCG from week 4 to pct.

Don't run NPP without cabaser. Especially since you have had gyno issues pop up before. For you I would suggest PGW Masteron 150 2ml a week injected on same days as Test E. You will see little benfit over 300mg especially if you aren't already very lean.

Tbol 80mg for 6 weeks is to much if you plan on adding var to follow into bridge. 60mg tbol and then 60mg var. Tbol week 1-6 and Var startes @ week 10. That gives you 4 weeks on liver holiday before you start var.

If you are going to pin NPP EOD, then why not cocktail and pin NPP + Prop + Masteron - Monday / Wednesday / Fridays 1.2ml NPP, 1.2ml prop, 1.2ml masteron prop.

Oupa that is way too much gear. 630mg NPP/week with 420mg masteron for his second cycle? And then there's still all the other stuff?

Ok I was working on EOD, not 3 times a week but I still think that is too much.

I did not see 2nd cycle but the topic name states it. My mistake. Apologies.

The Masteron and test dosages is fine, the NPP might be on the high side for a second cycle.

Tbol 40mg and var @ 60mg.

Might as well use prop throughout, seeing that i want to do NPP. Ill probably just do 1ml NPP.
Will it make a huge difference if i pin EOD (mon, wed, fri) and then again on monday or can i just go EOD including weekends?

Whats the reasoning behind the 1.2ml dosages?
The other thing i want to know is: is there i big difference between using masteron rather than proviron on a cycle like this?