Stopping cycle / pre employment medical check.

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05 Nov 2013 13:30 #155974 by Visitor
Hello,

So i'm 4 weeks into cycle, 750mg test & 450mg deca a week.

40mg DBOL a day till 4th week.

Then i got a job offer - pre medical employment test coming up in Dec.

So 2 questions?

1. Do south african companies test for roids?

2. Can i stop my cycle now 4th week - stay on hcg till dec 10...and continue my cycle? What are the implications?

I heard test clears in a month? not sure if the deca will?


Whats the best advice for this situation?

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05 Nov 2013 14:11 #155979 by NorthBoy
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There's not a specific test for steroids for employment, but they WILL pick it up when they draw blood.

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05 Nov 2013 14:17 #155980 by Oom G
From what ive read, i know Deca can be detected in the body for well over a year

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05 Nov 2013 14:20 #155982 by mike123
Continue with the cycle and hope for the best ....Deca stays in your system for up to 18 months ...why not 500 mg of test on that cycle ? goodluck boet

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05 Nov 2013 14:23 - 05 Nov 2013 14:23 #155984 by CHAPEL

mike123 wrote: ...why not 500 mg of test on that cycle ?


To prevent deca dick.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

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Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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05 Nov 2013 14:26 #155985 by mike123

CHAPEL wrote:

mike123 wrote: ...why not 500 mg of test on that cycle ?


To prevent deca dick.


500mg should be enough....

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05 Nov 2013 14:28 #155986 by CHAPEL
At 450mg deca? For some yes. His test dosage is fine. Lets not derail this anymore.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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05 Nov 2013 16:20 #156004 by Thunderbeast
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NorthBoy wrote: There's not a specific test for steroids for employment, but they WILL pick it up when they draw blood.


How so? Thick blood?

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05 Nov 2013 18:54 #156016 by Pyroclasm
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Red blood cell count and Haemoglobin values will be very high. Liver and kidney tests will show stress on the organ. If they go anywhere near your HPTA hormones you are boned. As far as I know companies don't test for AAS or HPTA hormones (very expensive) except for sensitive industries. Interested in this topic and would like to know if someone knows for sure what they test for.

My advice to you is to stop your cycle immediately, especially the D-Bol will mess up your bloods. Drop the test to 150mg per week, then the day after your tests continue your cycle. Just my opinion..

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05 Nov 2013 18:55 #156017 by Pyroclasm
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Also make a big effort for liver support and cholesterol support! These are what the company will look at!

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06 Nov 2013 07:35 #156064 by Visitor
So...

If i stop my cycle for 5 weeks (remember i already did 4 weeks of test e and deca n dbol - ill do hcg 2 x shots a week and continue when i stop the cycle) and then start again from there for 10 weeks? i'll be fine?

Do i need to do PCT when i stop? Should i do anything to compensate during the 1 month approx wait besides hcg?

Thanks!

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06 Nov 2013 09:28 - 06 Nov 2013 09:33 #156071 by Rookie

Pyroclasm wrote: ..... Liver and kidney tests will show stress on the organ. If they go anywhere near your HPTA hormones you are boned. As far as I know companies don't test for AAS or HPTA hormones (very expensive) except for sensitive industries......


Spot on Pyro!!!

Companies generally test for Alcohol and Drug Abuse, with some general Health issues.

a Lot of companies run a cannabis test.

So yeah, as Pyro said, run liver and cholesterol support.
Herbaforce has a great cholesterol product called Schweden-Bitter. It's cheap, herbal and it works.

Get of any Fat Burners and Pre Workout drinks, they might test you positive for amphetamines.

If you want piece of mind, phone up the blood labs (Ampath, Lancette) and ask them what the general Tests are. Maybe you lucky and they tell you. Don't spin youre story, maybe tell them you are a Boss man and whant to introduce these test...

Don't stress to much Bud!!
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06 Nov 2013 09:34 #156072 by CHAPEL
It all depends what its for. I did one recently and they took a urine sample, did a bunch of tests and a torso x-ray. As far as I know they only tested for recreational drugs but this will not stop your protein levels etc being very high/suspicious on the test.

If this is for the military or something like that then the tests are a little more hectic. (Not our military probably)

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

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06 Nov 2013 09:38 #156074 by Oupa
There was a few topics about the exact same issues before. Use the search button and you will find more info.

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06 Nov 2013 10:32 #156084 by FIllet
Each company will have its own medical protocol, normally based on exposures the employees has or will be exposed to

Urine tests normally include:
Glucose
Protein
Blood
Leucocytes
Urobilongen
Nitrates
Cannabis/multi drug test

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06 Nov 2013 10:49 #156086 by Muscleaddict
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No need to stop the cycle. Just stop the dbol. Donate blood a few days before the test. That will sort out your RBC/haemocrit. That's the only way unless you stop the cycle or drop to useless doses. But definitely get on the essentiale/liv52 for your liver, and rycol/cho-less-sterol for your lipids and 5 or 6 salmon oil omega 3 caps a day. You will be off the dbol for a month before the tests and that's enough time to sort things out.

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06 Nov 2013 10:58 #156090 by Visitor
Hey MuscleAddict - i am on 2 x hcg currently .... flaxseed oil 3 x caps a day - i eat clean.

i am on essential and opti men.

Question is - if i stop my cycle .... and then start it up again - is that not going to affect my system?

So i did 4 weeks ... one month off .... another 8? or start fresh and do entire 12?

Wanted to do hgh also but now contemplating starting from next time i continue.

i have massive gains and strenght already in my 4th week .... the remaining test should carry me for the month i predict since i was on 750mg test e and 450mg deca a week? plus the dbol 40mg per day?

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06 Nov 2013 11:28 #156103 by Pyroclasm
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Muscleaddict wrote: No need to stop the cycle. Just stop the dbol. Donate blood a few days before the test. That will sort out your RBC/haemocrit. That's the only way unless you stop the cycle or drop to useless doses. But definitely get on the essentiale/liv52 for your liver, and rycol/cho-less-sterol for your lipids and 5 or 6 salmon oil omega 3 caps a day. You will be off the dbol for a month before the tests and that's enough time to sort things out.


Can´t donate blood if you are on illegal substances.

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06 Nov 2013 11:30 #156104 by Oupa
Test has never been illegal ;)

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06 Nov 2013 11:30 #156105 by CHAPEL
Just banned ;)

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

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06 Nov 2013 11:34 #156107 by Oupa

CHAPEL wrote: Just banned ;)


ag fakit. Pyro keep your mouth shut. :P

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06 Nov 2013 11:34 #156108 by Pyroclasm
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And Deca? Also they ask you if you are on any form of AAS.

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06 Nov 2013 11:36 #156109 by Pyroclasm
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Oupa wrote: yro keep your mouth shut. :P


lol Ja baas!

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06 Nov 2013 11:37 #156110 by Oupa

Pyroclasm wrote: And Deca? Also they ask you if you are on any form of AAS.


I heard they sell the AAS bloods for cycles on ebay ? :whistle:

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06 Nov 2013 11:37 #156111 by Muscleaddict
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Pyroclasm wrote:

Muscleaddict wrote: No need to stop the cycle. Just stop the dbol. Donate blood a few days before the test. That will sort out your RBC/haemocrit. That's the only way unless you stop the cycle or drop to useless doses. But definitely get on the essentiale/liv52 for your liver, and rycol/cho-less-sterol for your lipids and 5 or 6 salmon oil omega 3 caps a day. You will be off the dbol for a month before the tests and that's enough time to sort things out.


Can´t donate blood if you are on illegal substances.


Says who? What are they going to do? Test the blood for steroids?

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