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16 Nov 2013 11:11 #157226 by Muscleaddict
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Mookee the Devil wrote: Should i get my blood work done….? b4jumping on the cycle so i can keep a tap on th changes happening… if yes thn which test shod i go fr… ? pls guide… thnxs


Good idea.

Total testosterone, free testosterone, estradiol, SHBG, prolactin, LH, FSH, cortisol, TSH, full blood count, lipid profiles, liver (ALP, GGT, ALT, AST), kidney function, blood glucose.

Your doc might say testing prolactin is unnecessary but say you want it anyway.
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16 Nov 2013 11:30 #157228 by Mookee the Devil
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Wow… thts hell lotta work to b done… Ill do it… and post the reports B4 cycle… what abt Thyroid tests….? aint they important…?

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16 Nov 2013 11:38 #157229 by Muscleaddict
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Yes, but if anything goes wrong with post cycle recovery, that is what you need for reference. I said to test TSH for thyroid. If that is fine then you don't need to test T4/T3.
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18 Nov 2013 01:01 #157311 by Rooi Bul 86
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I know I am new to the site but not too training or diet or commitment. My input is bad time of the year to start a cycle that long. Eat good quality sources of protein and complex carbs soos pasta en oats hel koop n sak patats eat every 3hours buddy. :blush: as jy al daai sop kan bekostig is jou yskas seker vol so koop nog n yskas en maak die ou vol kos. Stick to that until early Jan and then run a good clean committed cycle.

not what you want to hear but what I would have done.

It is on you. It always has been...
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27 Nov 2013 12:38 #158102 by Mookee the Devil
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Well guys just started with my first shots today … Test Prop(1ML/100MG)+Mastebolin(1ML/100MG) mixed in one syringe and Tren Hexa(1.5ML/76.5MG) separate in another syringe… Is thr any particular time for Dianabol(1tab/25mg) to b taken…? or can be taken any part of the day…? My weight is 67.30kg now and BF levels have gone up to 12%… as i was feeding on lot of calories for bit of Mass b4 starting my cycle… Any suggestions pls do lemme knw… Thnxs all...

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27 Nov 2013 12:44 #158103 by mike123
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Never used those exept Dbol which u can take anytime ....
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28 Nov 2013 15:52 - 28 Nov 2013 15:55 #158207 by Mookee the Devil
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Hi Friends…
My Blood reports…


LDL/HDL RATIO (L) 2.1--- 2.5-4.0
A/G RATIO (L) 1.2--- 1.5-2.1
SGOT 46--- 15-46
BUN (H) 21--- 10-20
CREATININE 1.0--- 0.5-1.4
PROLACTIN (H) 83.26--- 3.0-25.0
TSH 6.54
LH 4.72--- 1.1-7.0
FSH 2.86--- 1.7-12.0
RBC (H) 7.23--- 4.5-6.5
MCV (L) 60.2--- 76.0-96.0
MCH (L) 32.6--- 27.0-32.0
RDW-CV (H) 24.2--- 14-16

MY TESTOSTERONE AND FREE TESTOSTERONE,ESPADIOL,CORTISOL STILL YET TO COME…IN A DAY OR TWO

CAN SOMEONE THROW LIGHT ON MY BLOOD WORK.. PROLACTIN LEVELS AND BUN AND SGOT SEEMS HIGH… WHAT CAN BE DONE… OR DO I NEED TO CONSULT AN ENDOCHROLOGIST….? PLS LEMME KNW...
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28 Nov 2013 16:33 - 28 Nov 2013 16:34 #158209 by Muscleaddict
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Mookee the Devil wrote: Hi Friends…
My Blood reports…


LDL/HDL RATIO (L) 2.1--- 2.5-4.0
A/G RATIO (L) 1.2--- 1.5-2.1
SGOT 46--- 15-46
BUN (H) 21--- 10-20
CREATININE 1.0--- 0.5-1.4
PROLACTIN (H) 83.26--- 3.0-25.0
TSH 6.54
LH 4.72--- 1.1-7.0
FSH 2.86--- 1.7-12.0
RBC (H) 7.23--- 4.5-6.5
MCV (L) 60.2--- 76.0-96.0
MCH (L) 32.6--- 27.0-32.0
RDW-CV (H) 24.2--- 14-16

MY TESTOSTERONE AND FREE TESTOSTERONE,ESPADIOL,CORTISOL STILL YET TO COME…IN A DAY OR TWO

CAN SOMEONE THROW LIGHT ON MY BLOOD WORK.. PROLACTIN LEVELS AND BUN AND SGOT SEEMS HIGH… WHAT CAN BE DONE… OR DO I NEED TO CONSULT AN ENDOCHROLOGIST….? PLS LEMME KNW...


What medication were you taking when you had blood drawn or are you taking any chronic meds that could have interfered with the results?

Lots of things can push your SGOT up very quickly. I wouldn't be too concerned about that just yet, but take liver support supps every day anyway. Your BUN could be at 21 from eating a very high amount of protein in the day or so before the blood test. That could be mean you are eating more protein than your kidneys can handle. Obviously there are other things like dehydration that raise BUN but the protein thing is common in guys following bodybuilder diets.

Your TSH is a big concern. I would see a doc about that because your thyroid is most definitely not a happy camper. That points to hypothyroidism and many docs would put you straight on T4 meds for a TSH of over 6. Your high prolactin could be related as hypothyroidism and hyperprolactinaemia often go hand in hand. Hows your libido with prolactin so high?

Your red blood cell count is also just going to get higher on cycle and it's already too high. Take a baby aspirin every day to thin your blood a bit. It's not the best time to be on cycle bud.
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29 Nov 2013 08:24 #158241 by Mookee the Devil
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Oooops I'm already two shots 3 compounds down…


Thnxs for th good support and Feedback M.A… Well i have taken an appointment with an Endochrologist.. just waiting fr my testosterone reports to come… i was on T-3 and clen for 3 months.. 1.5 month back.. May b thats th cause of TSH… My Libido levels are quiet good… No issues with that …. I'm intaking arnd 180 to 200 gms of protein ED… I had done all my test 9-10 hrs of Fasting… ya i was on cough medicine a day b4… and Multivitamins regular basis… And I'm taking 6 tabs(2-2-2) ED of LIV-52DS 2 days b4 i started my cycle… Ya my water intake is too low… need to push it more… i cldn do SHBG and cortisol test as for cortisol test i was a bit late… and Including SHBG was goin beyond a bit of my budget .. But if its very important ill go get it done.. pls lemme knw… and is it advisable to get proper figures of both th test now as I'm already two shots down of each AAS… ? kindly advice … Thank U...

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30 Nov 2013 21:55 #158289 by Muscleaddict
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Your T3/Clen cycle messed up your thyroid by the looks of it. Hopefully it will come right in time but doing more T3 will just cause problems for you in the long run. Your TSH level is no joke and your endo will be concerned. Just be straight up with him about what you have taken and what you are taking. Very important. It is much easier to permanently mess up your thyroid with T3 than it is to mess up your HPTA with steroids.

There is no point getting any blood work done now that you have started your cycle. The results will give you the wrong picture.

Remember to take a baby aspirin every day for your blood and get those cholesterol supps.
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01 Dec 2013 11:34 #158292 by Mookee the Devil
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Thnxs M.A…

So ill waive out th T-3 frm my ongoing cycle…. But thn hw will i b able to get myself ripped if No clen No T-3… Any other option…. ? if i can… I'm keeping my diet very clean….

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01 Dec 2013 12:18 #158293 by admin
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Mookee the Devil wrote: Thnxs M.A…

So ill waive out th T-3 frm my ongoing cycle…. But thn hw will i b able to get myself ripped if No clen No T-3… Any other option…. ? if i can… I'm keeping my diet very clean….


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01 Dec 2013 12:35 #158294 by Mookee the Devil
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Okay… Thanks :)

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01 Dec 2013 12:59 - 01 Dec 2013 12:59 #158295 by iMan
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Mookee the Devil wrote: Thnxs M.A…

So ill waive out th T-3 frm my ongoing cycle…. But thn hw will i b able to get myself ripped if No clen No T-3… Any other option…. ? if i can… I'm keeping my diet very clean….


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06 Dec 2013 14:27 #158494 by Mookee the Devil
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So far so Good….
8th Day in progress… can feel great amount of strength… almost crossed 70kgs of my bodyweight.. its showing 70.3kg... Weight pick up and muscle memory picking up good… But i can see lot of water retention happening… as my face looks bloated and damn Puffed… Is that fine or should i pull in Armidex 1mg ED… so that it takes care of the excess water retention happening...

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06 Dec 2013 14:37 #158495 by Mookee the Devil
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My other reports have come…
Estradiol 35
Testosterone 572
Free Testosterone 14.60

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26 Dec 2013 13:21 #159109 by Mookee the Devil
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Hi friends…

its 29th day of my cycle… and going good… I'm almost 73 kgs 0f weight… but can someone help me… i keep getting this cough after my jabs… i have read somewhere that its known as Tren Cough…. is that true… and hw can it b avoided or countered...

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26 Dec 2013 16:08 #159110 by Muscleaddict
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I find using a smaller needle helps. You're going to hit less capillaries by doing that. I used a 24G my last cycle and I only got tren cough twice in about 8 weeks on tren a.
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26 Dec 2013 18:22 #159112 by Oupa
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If your pin sites are "tired" and over pinned you will have Tren cough. I also has it twice in 8 weeks. Once was hectic, the other time my asma pump did the job to reduce the cough.
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27 Dec 2013 11:51 #159114 by Mookee the Devil
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Thnxs Oupa…

Well i am getting it consistently from last 4 jabs … and I'm helping myself out with cough syrup.. its been a great help in relief.. but makes me drowsy though….

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27 Dec 2013 11:56 #159115 by Mookee the Devil
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Thnxs M.A
i had been using 22g.. i think ill try the 24g now.. and see the difference… i had been self jabbing myself on both th Quads… They are like pepped up round and swelled bulging now Lumpy… But thr is no pain… i had been mixing Test Prop with Masteron in one syringe (1+1=2ML) and Tren-H in one syringe… (1.5ml) And had been interchanging left right Quads on every alternate day jabs...

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27 Dec 2013 18:26 - 27 Dec 2013 18:28 #159118 by kkx250
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Do your glutes as well. Quads eod, two pins per quad is way to much. Like oupa said.
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27 Dec 2013 18:48 #159119 by Rhino
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Even throw in delts. That's the easiest of the lot

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28 Dec 2013 10:11 #159128 by Mookee the Devil
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Hi Rhino…

Wont that be to painful… on Delts as its a smaller muscle.. compared to quads and glutes...

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28 Dec 2013 18:45 #159133 by Oupa
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No its not painful. Tren EOD pinning with 4 pin sites will be good for around 8 weeks.
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