First Cycle questions: AI, Bridge, Supplements

Hi,

I've researched as much as I can, and am starting my first cycle on January 2nd. There's a few things I'm struggling to find a definite answer on though and would really appreciate input on the following questions.

My context:
Age: 28
Weight: 78kg
Height: 1.7m
Bodyfat: 9.5%
Goal 1 : Minimise and control side affects and maintain my health.
Goal 2: Gain AND maintain +-9kg lean muscle mass

The cycle I've chosen is the Sample Beginner Bulk Cycle:
Cycle:
2x PGW Testocyp (250mg x 10ml)
2x LP Dianabol (10mg x 50)
1x Optional anti-estrogen (Arimidex or Letrozole)

PCT:
1x LP HCG 5000iu
1x LP Clomid (50mg x 15)
1x LP Nolvadex (20mg x 30)

My questions are:

1. I have my diet under control I believe. Spent enough years researching and practicing correct eating habits for mass building. However, I'm not sure of the interaction between supplements and steroids. Do amphetamines in pre-workout out drinks, water retention from creatine or the ingredients of natural testosterone boosters interact in any way with steroids? Are there supplements I should avoid? I plan to stick to a pretty standard: whey and caseine protein, mass builder, nitrous oxide pre-workout, creatine stack. Is this safe to use during my cycle?

2. Bride: The sample beginners bulk cycle doesn't have a bridge? Is this correct? I've seen that some people use proviron between the cycle and PCT? Should I consider this or is it best on my first cycle to not use anything during the bridge?

3. AI: Ive had mixed input about which is the best AI to keep on hand. Arimidex or Letrozole?

4. Gyno: Im nervous about gyno - In that Im not sure I will know when I need to take the AI. I dont want to leave it too late so that gyno sets in and I dont want to take it unnecessarily as Ive read that can also have negative effects. Keeping it on hand is one thing, but know when to use it is something else... please assist.

5. Cycle length - As far as what I've read - the recommended 12 week cycle is best. I'm a little nervous to go for so long on my first cycle. Is it not safer to maybe halve the cycle time to 6 weeks?

6. Emotions: I would in quite a stressful environment - people tend to lose their tempers and often its my job to resolve conflict. Should I expect and prepare for severe changes to my temper?

7. I'm unclear on the effect of the first cycle, specifically these substances on sexual performance. Am I going to need to have a sit down with my girlfriend and explain that for 3 months we'll have to get her a vibrating friend? I know my nuts will probably shrink up, but understand this reverses during the PCT. Is erectile dysfunction to be expected throughout?

Thank you in advance.

Kind you,
IC

1. Don't have to worry about natural supplements interfering.

2. Bridge is optional. I prefer it though.

3. Letro first time around will be fine. Its also cheaper. U don't know how pronw u will be to estrogen sides first time around so no point running adex. See how it goes and if estrogen sides appear use the letro and go from there the next cycle.

4. U will know when u getting gyno symptoms. Itchy, irritated, sore nipples is what I get then I know.

5. 6 weeks would be a waste as the test only kicks in fully after 4-5weeks. 10 weeks is fine @ 2ml per week so 2 x 10ml will be enough.

6. That's something u gotta see for urself. Generally if u not an asshole off gear u won't be one on gear but people differ. Just always be consiously aware not to over react.

7. No, sit ur girlfriend down and handcuff her to the bed so she can't run away....coz you will want to tap that at least a few times a day, everyday on test

Enjoy

Just to add 3. if u want to play safe then start letro at 3 drops EOD
6. U will most probably handle conflict better as test gives u a feeling of well being .
7. Quite the oppersite to what u thinking as MCJ says u going to be a randy M/F*cker... start your HCG at 250iu twice a week 10 weeks from PCT to keep the nuts full.
Finally this is a safe cycle so dont overthink and enjoy ....

O and the sups u taking wont be necasery exept for Whey

regarding number 7: i wasn't even horny during my cycle and i used 60mg proviron throughout my cycle. Just saying.

Megusta wrote: regarding number 7: i wasn't even horny during my cycle and i used 60mg proviron throughout my cycle. Just saying.

Thats a sh*t one ..in your bridge ?

Megusta wrote: regarding number 7: i wasn't even horny during my cycle and i used 60mg proviron throughout my cycle. Just saying.

Same here.

mike123 wrote: Just to add 3. if u want to play safe then start letro at 3 drops EOD...

since it's his first cycle, I wouldn't use letro from the start. That way he can learn how prone he is to gyno.

Side Note: If you do get gyno you can include some nolva as well. That's only in bad cases though. I usually start seeing positive changes in 2 days with letro

Heretic47 wrote:

Megusta wrote: regarding number 7: i wasn't even horny during my cycle and i used 60mg proviron throughout my cycle. Just saying.

Same here.

mike123 wrote: Just to add 3. if u want to play safe then start letro at 3 drops EOD...

since it's his first cycle, I wouldn't use letro from the start. That way he can learn how prone he is to gyno.




I suppose this is debateable ...the old prevention against cure argument ...I also feel letro quickly but for some it takes longer ...but 3 drops EOD is a minute dosage
I think it was JR that said prov kills his libido but not for me :evil: differant strokes

Hi guys, Thank for the constructive feedback!

Will respond in more detail when I have a second - just a quick one, please excuse my ignorance. What does EOD mean when referring to the AI?

IC

Every other day...

Megusta wrote: regarding number 7: i wasn't even horny during my cycle and i used 60mg proviron throughout my cycle. Just saying.

I have to say test is best and the only thing that matters is pumping and humping. :silly: :pinch:
Sorry bro why not try hcg during cycle with a testo blast supplement I am still amazed.

Hi guys,

Thanks for the input. Very helpful.

One last question I think and Im set:

My routine changes in terms of time in the gym - some days its first thing in the morning (06h30), others its after work (18h00).

If I inject Testocyp every Sunday afternoon (Sunday is a rest day) and take Dbol every morning for weeks 1 - 4 before I eat anything, is this the recommended intake?

Or should I inject monday morning along with the Dbol? Or doesnt it really matter?

Thanks.
IC

IronCobra wrote: Hi guys,

Thanks for the input. Very helpful.

One last question I think and Im set:

My routine changes in terms of time in the gym - some days its first thing in the morning (06h30), others its after work (18h00).

If I inject Testocyp every Sunday afternoon (Sunday is a rest day) and take Dbol every morning for weeks 1 - 4 before I eat anything, is this the recommended intake?

Or should I inject monday morning along with the Dbol? Or doesnt it really matter?

Thanks.
IC

Doesn't matter. Split your dbol dose through the day