Anavar and Proviron

When is the best time to take -with food ,before workout and time period inbetween doses etc -any advice appreciated.

Taking Winstrol orals at the end of this cycle good or idea or not?

From what i see this is an oral only cycle?

Someone like me will probably never run orals without test anyway, but iv'e heard good things about Var and proviron.

I personally won't add winny if i had to do this cycle. Seeing that it's just Var and Provi, i'd opt for 8-12 weeks of var alone. If i do 8 weeks id do about 80mg Var with 40mg Proviron. The longer cycle id do 60mg Var with 40mg Proviron.

Split dose on empty stomach as the fat in food can hamper with absorbing orals. VAr has an 8hour half-life if im correct so an equal split of 20,20,20, with proviron with the first and last dose. One of these dosed preferably before workout and few hours after food. Last dose at about bed time. Each dose about 6-8 hours apart. If i do 80mg i'd split: 20,40, 20, where the 40mg is before/around my workout.

Why run winny after var and proviron? What do u hope to achive with this? Ur joints are going to hate u...

Agree with Megusta. I split the number of doses by 24 hours to keep blood levels stable throughout cycle. Not being completely fasted isn't a train smash, but try and plan them evenly and before food.

MCJ wrote: Why run winny after var and proviron? What do u hope to achive with this? Ur joints are going to hate u...

Same joint issues with oral winny and injectables? I'm also weighing up var vs. winny for an upcoming cycle.

Help started this cycle beginning of the week and my apetite is completely gone-struggling to even get my pwo shake in-awesome pumps after only 4 days-any advice to keep energy levels up would also be appreciated-train at 4am in the morning and by 2pm i am exhausted.

Force feed yourself, if you don't eat like a beast you'll completely waist your cycle.

Look as food as fuel not a meal and get it down. If your tired you probable need a load more carbs

Cycle without food are a wasted cycle. Also supplements are never a substitution for a well balanced meal, they do however provide valuable supplementation to existing meals. if you are battling to eat, try eating very small portions (Kind of like snacking)throughout the day. You'll be amazed how quickly your body gets used to this and the demand for food will be encouraged. Strong's man!

Halfway through this cycle and gained 5,5kg although bodyfat percentage has stayed the same-strength gains have been good and apetite returned after about a week.

Any advice on how to drop bodyfat would be appreciated-without doing loads of cardio ,dont know if doing heavy cardio at the same time is going to affect the muscle gains.

Strength went up rapidly and have increased weights on all my sets,doing a realtively high volume pushing 30 sets per workout in about 45-60 mins.

Drop calories a bit ...add some 3f or clen yomby..

20 min cardio post workout. Getting ripped takes effort and cardio and if your diet is on point you'll loose fat no muscle.

Guys

Sorry for the hijack, but what sort of pct would you run here? Pct 1?

Yes.

Anavar + proviron only is fine? I know there are alot of guys who swear test in their cycles, but this oral only cycle won't be a train smash? Im also looking to start a first cycle and would prefer to have my first one with no test just for personal preference.

I am one of those who swear by test in your cycles, but these oral cycles are ok...

Cycle 1

Cycle 2