2nd cycle planning

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07 Dec 2013 21:39 #158517 by NoRegrets21
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Howzit guys,

This will be my 2nd cycle.

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Age: 23
Weight: 86 down from 93 in July this year
Height: 183cm
BF: 10%
Training: 6 days per week 4 day split, 3 days cardio. Cardio consisting of 2 days HIIT and 1 day steady state. My Diet is clean and consists of 2800 calories, this will increase when I run the cycle.

My goal is to gain lean muscle and to drop body fat. I also want to minimize side effects as much as possible, therefore I want to run test at a maintenance dose. Don’t know what you guys think about this?

Planned 16 week cycle:
Equi @ 600 per week and test cyp @ 150 (not sure if the test dose is sufficient for a maintenance dose?)
Anavar @ 80mg and proviron @ 60 (I have enough for 8 weeks but not sure how I should run it?)
Letrozole @ 0.2mg mon/wed/fri, and will taper down at the end of the cycle (I am gyno prone)

Pct:
Nolvadex
Clomid
Hcg

Will also be taking liver support throughout the cycle.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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09 Dec 2013 20:22 #158563 by Pyroclasm
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Test @250-300mg for low dose test. Anavar @60mg max of you are scared of sides. Run proviron with the Anavar for 8 weeks as your bridge. Cycle history?

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09 Dec 2013 21:36 #158572 by NoRegrets21
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My 1st cycle was as follows:

week 1-10: 600mg Test E (mon-thurs split)
week 1-4: 50 mg Tbol ED
week 11-14:50 mg winstrol and 40mg proviron

PCT 30 days after last shot
clomid
nolva
hcg

So should I run the Anavar and proviron in the last 8 weeks?

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09 Dec 2013 22:33 #158575 by Oupa
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That was a solid first cycle, nice !
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10 Dec 2013 07:45 #158587 by Rhino
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Nice choice on your first cycle and well done on your cut. Good luck with the cycle and keep us posted

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10 Dec 2013 10:12 #158590 by Pyroclasm
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How did you react to the test in terms of sides? And the Winstrol? Why don't you run the T-Bol again?

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10 Dec 2013 12:05 #158591 by NoRegrets21
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The side effects I experienced from the test were pretty harsh and I felt they outweighed the gains if that makes sense. Didn't feel as though I reacted badly to winstrol. The only reason I have chosen anavar over T-bol is because I already have it on hand from earlier this year.

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10 Dec 2013 14:23 #158593 by manery
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What kind of sides did you experience?

"There is no reason to have a plan B because it distracts from plan A" - Phil heath

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10 Dec 2013 14:54 #158596 by NoRegrets21
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Mainly hair loss, acne and gyno.

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10 Dec 2013 15:07 #158597 by Pyroclasm
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Okay so you responded pretty badly. I would use the Anavar and Proviron 8 weeks before the start of PCT. Then get some T-Bol for a frontload. If you have some cash add Primobolan to avoid disappointing results.

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10 Dec 2013 16:23 #158603 by NoRegrets21
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If I have the cash I will definitely add Primobolen. Just another question can I combine the test and EQ into one shot and then shoot that mon-thurs split?

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10 Dec 2013 16:31 #158606 by Oupa
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Yes.

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10 Dec 2013 17:07 #158612 by NoRegrets21
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K so this will be the cycle:

week 1-16: 250mg test cyp and 600mg EQ (mon-thurs split)
week 1-4: 50mg T-bol ED
week 15-22: 60mg anavar and 80mg proviron
Letrozole at 0.2mg mon/wed/fri throughout cycle

PCT 50 day's after last shot

Nolvadex
Clomid
Hcg

Does this look right?

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11 Dec 2013 16:24 #158651 by Pyroclasm
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The waiting time for 250mg Test Cyp is 24-25 days. For the EQ 50 days. So run the test 25 days longer than the EQ so that they both clear at the same time. Why don't you run the EQ for 13-14 weeks rather. That way you will need exactly three PGW EQ 10ml vials.

Because the cycle is so long, I would advise you run HCG during cycle to prevent testicular atrophy. 250iu twice a week. This will ensure a much better recovery and a smoother PCT period.

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11 Dec 2013 16:40 #158654 by NoRegrets21
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Ok I will run it for 14 weeks rather and will run the HCG as well. With regards to the letro do I need to taper up or do I just start at 0.2 on the first day of the shot? and i'm also not exactly sure how to taper down could you please help me out with this?

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11 Dec 2013 17:51 #158659 by Rhino
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I just run the letro at the same low dose up until the start of PCT then there's no need to taper.

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