Lean Muscle 3rd Cycle

Hi Guys,

This is my 1st time posting on this forum, although I have been an avid reader over the past couple years. I'm looking for some feedback on my planned cycle 4 the coming year. As is customary, my stats are:

Age: 31
Height: 173 cm
Weight: 86kgs
Bf%: approx. 10% by caliper
Previous cycles: 2

1st Cycle: 3 weeks of Test Prop 350 mg/wk, 7 weeks Test En 500mg/wk (PIP was insane on Prop, tried 2 persevere through pain, but eventually had 2 glowing glutes and 2 glowing venturo-glutes and switched to
Enth- best thing I ever did!!!)

2nd Cycl: had great results, gained 4-5kgs lean muscle and dropped 2% bf, the visual results were however more phenomenal than the stats suggest.
12 wks: 600mg/wk Test Enth
10 wks: 350mg/wk Equi (for joint support)
Wk 8-12: 60 mg/day Var

Ok now for my intended cycle 4 the new year... I have followed a standard time on plus PCT, equals time off. I have delayed the start 2 the new year such that I can get a little loose over Dec and New years wrt drinking. The plan is:

Wk 1-3: 50mg Dbol ED
Wk 1-13: 600 mg/wk Testen (twice weekly injections)
Wk 14-19: 750 mg/wk Testen (")
Wk 1-18: 540 mg/wk Equi (")
Wk 16-19: 80 mg Var ED

Wk 4-19: 0.5mg Adex EOD
Wk 4-19: 500 IU HcG (twice weekly)

PCT 2, starting 50 days after last Equi shot.

I'm looking 2 gain lean muscle and minimize the fat gain from the increased calorie intake. I would like 2 gain another 5-7kgs lean body mass. I have included Eq at an increased dose and running it for longer than 10wks as I have read that this is really where the gains from equi begin. I'm a little scared 2 run over 600mg/wk due the possible anxiety problems it causes, I suffered from occasional night sweats on my 2nd cycle...

My question is, do you think that the dosages and run length are suitable for a 3rd cycle. I have included the Adex 2 help with water retention and any aromatization that may occur, I'm prone 2 gyno so don't wanna take chances... I had some gyno during puberty. Given the length of the cycle, I have included HcG to keep my balls hanging low and not shut-down too hard...

I would appreciate any feedback and suggestions/critisisms,
Thanks!

Very keen to see what they guys say as well. I'm in a similar position.

Why do you want to kickstart with dbol, don't you find that it adds too much water retention? What about dropping the dbol and testen and going with a blend like supertest?

im going to keep my opinion short and sweet but too the point.

you say your prone to gyno, but you want to run 19weeks of a moderately high dose of test aswell as frontload with 50mg pd dbol, im lucky im not prone to gyno, but even for me that sounds like itchy nipples so to speak....

that kinda strain for that period of time, I find hard to justify. gotta look at things like recovery after etc.

I liked your second cycle structure FAR more and would run a 3rd like this;

wks 1-4: dbol 40mg
wks 1-12: 600mg/wk Test Enth
wks 1-12: 540/wk Equi
wks 8-16: 60 mg/day Var



my 2c

I am a little concerned bout the water retention from the Dbol too, but more concerned bout the short esters in the SuperTest... I had debilitating post injection pain (PIP) in my 1st cycle from prop, the crystals took 2 full weeks to break down, could barely walk or sit. Actually thought I might have had cysts!

I know the test En's gonna take bought 2 wks 2 kick in, so my inpatience with strength supercedes the water retention... I found that the Adex sorted out my water retention last cycle (albeit not with Dbol). Just wanna wait 4 the test 2 be fully kicked in before I start the Adex. I've heard of guys crashing their Estrogen by starting Adex too soon or taking too much and having all sorts of issues with depression and total lack of energy and drive...

At this stage the Dbol is a trade-off. Prop would be my 1st choice... But thanks 4 the suggestion!

@ PP

Thanks for the advice, the length of the cycle was my main concern which is why I was looking 4 feedback... I've probably fallen prey to trying 2 run too much 4 too long

I'll take your advice on that one 12 wks it is then!!!

As far as the Var is concerned, you've suggested running it 4 wks past the test, is this correct? So I would be running it as a bridge?

Thanks again

that is correct yes, im a firm believer in running a bridge. great way to stay anabolic while coming off the injectibles. and iv had awesome results with var aswell as winny. see how your budget looks, if it allows run the var as I suggested for 8 weeks. if not, try winny from week 12-16 instead @40mg.

a big thing iv learnt, no matter how much you just wanna take huge amounts of juice. the side effects/recovery vs additional size gained is just not feasible.

I still suggest you frontload with dbol. while the enanthate kicks in. ensure a clean diet and the water retention should not be an issue

Ok great!

The reduced cycle length (esp. Equi) will offset the cost of the extra Var. I only do 1 cycle a year so I don't mind "investing" in the right gear 4 the job. I'll be sure 2 keep my ambition in check in my future cycle plans

Its settled then, gonna work out the total amounts this evening 2 see how it plans out

Good luck bud