Test Prop/Test Enth/ Tren Enth/ Equi Cycle

Good day All

Some stats first:

Age:34
Weight: 82 - 83kg
Body Fat Caliper: 10 - 12%
Height: 1.71 Meters

Last Cycle : Jan - March 2013 (Test Enth and Equi) 10 wks

Proposed/Planned Cycle for Starting Mid Jan 2014:

WK 1 - WK 3 Test Prop 1ml ( 3 x wk) PGW (100mg/ml)
WK 1 - WK 15 Equi 1ml ( 2 x wk) PGW (350mg/ml)
WK 1 - WK 15 Test Enth 1ml ( 2 x wk) PGW (300mg/ml)
WK 5 - WK 14 Tren Enth 1ml ( 2 x wk) PGW (150mg/ml)

Wk 5 - WK 15 HCG 250 iu Twice a week

PCT # 3 to be used post cycle.

Test prop is to be used to front load.

In addition to the above: I was thinking of running
D-Bol 50mg a day for the first 10 days of the cycle.

Also looking at running T3 during the cycle. Not sure
when would be a good time to start the T3. Would generally
run 50mcg's a day up to 75mcg's max.

I would load my cycle on as an attachment, but no idea how to.

I will run one cycle this year, so would like to get it right.

Thanks for any assistance offered.

Kind Regards,

Looks good, of course you know what doses are best for you better than anyone but there are some things I would change.

At any dose I'd run the dbol for longer, at least a month, even if that means omitting the prop kickstart (not exactly a frontload). Dbol volumisation comes very quickly but the strength and overall benefits only seem to be in full swing after a week or two.

The only other changes I'd make are more personal preference than anything:
Adrol instead of dbol (also an excellent choice at your BF%),
tren ace instead of enth so its anti-catabolism immediately complements non-AR mediated anabolism from adrol (and I'd run both at 700mg per week as my sweet spot),
I'd actually run test as low as 150mg per week and raise EQ to a gram, I know nothing beats high test for mass gain and good feels but I'd prefer the look and milk the benefits of EQ and I probably wouldn't need any ancilliaries at all with these doses (big positive for me).

But again this is just my 2c and besides the dbol duration your proposed cycle is perfectly fine, perhaps someone more knowledgeable would chime in.

Edit: All assuming your goal is to bulk...

Thanks for the feedback TheBulk

I run Tren Enth as I only inject in the glute. I just cannot handle being pinned ED or EOD for
Such a long time. A bit of a wuss when it comes to the pinning. I therefore chose Tren Enth
Over Tren Ace.

I have also decided to run T3 for the prolactin benefits it offers.

As for dosages I will re-look my schedule. I'm not keen to inject more than 3ml per site injection,
And as I said before, I only inject in the glute. Haven't tried another injection site before.

I will have a look at getting some ADol.

My goal is bulking up, but like have quality gains...

Thank you for your comments and reply.

Much appreciated.

How many cycles have you run previously and did any of them include Tren?


I'm not sure whether I'm perhaps hijacking your thread, but I'd like to know from the experienced boarders how many cycles are advisable before taking the leap to Tren? There seems to be a lot of contention on all the forums as to the number of cycles one needs to have under the belt, ranging from 3 or 4 to 10. All the conflict led to me deciding to not include in my 2014 cycle.

The other question I was hoping to get a bit of clarity on is the amount of Tren to run? Minion, I'm assuming (I know, "the mother of all f&$k-ups) that this is your first Tren cycle? What would be the advisable starting dosage of Tren, given the potentially hardcore side-effects? Once again there seems to be very little consensus on the boards as to this dosage, seems to be in the range of 200mg/wk to 350mg/wk with lower dosages being ineffective... Obviously the choice of ester will affect the actual amount of tren, any reference figure will be greatly appreciated.

I agree with @TheBulk on the acetate ester, gives u the opportunity make any adjustments to side effects in a much shorter period rather than waiting a week or 2 for the noticable concentration of Tren to leave your system... I have found the ventural glute (hip area below pelvis, look it up) a very effective injection site and actually the least painful, if done properly 15 wks @ firstly 3 and then 2 jabs a week of 3mls could lead to a bit of scar tissue build-up... I'm sure you'll look into it if you do... I did out of necessity!!!

All the best! And keep a cycle log with your progress, I'm very interested to see what the gains from such a cycle will be!

Hi Hulk 1983

Thanks for the response.

I have added two new Anabolics to my pervious cycle.
Both of which I have no prior experience. In short, never taken Test Prop and Tren Enth.

Taking on Tren for the first time I have decided to run 300ml per week. I think 150ml per week
Is too low, and I'm nervous to run more than that. Need some assistance here from more experienced guys.

I have never run short esters before and nervous the amount of pinning required. My last cycle was 10wks Test Enth and Equi.
By the end of the cycle my glute was already getting scar tissue. In addition, should I have a bad pinning, I don't have time to recover
For the next short ester shot. Longer ester allow some time for recovery. My base cycle is Test Enth and Equi, so if I have sides, I will drop the Tren.

For the prolactin I will run T3, was thinking of 40 to 60mcg EOD. Not sure when the best time to start the T3, thinking of starting it with the Tren. I will run Some thyroid support but not to concerned I will have thyroid issues. I have also read your thread on T3, which indicates thyroid recovery in a relatively short period.

I have decided to run the Dbol for the first 4wks, will run liv.52, essential or prohep for liver support. Not sure which is better between essential or prohep. Will need to eat clean to reduce water retention.

I'm seriously concerned about the pinning. It's the longest cycle I've done. Hoping to get the courage to inject in the thigh, refer to wuss in previous post. Would run more orals, but like my liver.

Thanks for the post.

Looking forward to the updates in this thread.

I'm looking to hit a recomp cycle after my bulk with tren, prop, mast and some eq.

I think you are doing a good thing starting off 'light' with the tren dosage. You can always adjust upwards as the weeks go by, a little harder with the Tren E but I hope it goes well. As for the injection sites, shoulders/glutes are the easiest in my opinion. I use the thigh but I always prefer the other spots.

In regards to what the TheBulk said, lower test/higher tren for sure! Makes sense to do that when you've looked over the compounds.