First Cycle In 8 Years

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13 Jan 2014 07:58 - 13 Jan 2014 08:00 #159629 by T-Style
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Hi Guys

It has been 8 years since i last trained let alone was on a cycle. The cycle consisted of 1000mg a week of testan 100 and 10 anabol tabs a day. Testan worked very well for me even when i was doing minimal doses. My PCT on that was only 5000iu Pregnyl EOD for a week so Mon,Wed,Fri and that was it.

Now with me being out for so long there is a lot of "New" products and gear out there that i dont really know much about. I have been reading up on this site now for about a week and i seem to be drawn to the Test Prop side of things.
Can anyone recommend a decent first cycle?
I am wanting to compete next year so i would ideally in the next year and a bit like to squeeze 3 GOOD cycles in. So going on what i have used and what has worked for me in the past what should i be looking at getting, using and how long as well as why do you suggest whatever you do?
I am not going to take the gear immidiately as i want my natural strength to come back first, so i would only be using in the next say 2 months.


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13 Jan 2014 08:07 #159630 by mike123
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Articles sect at the top have a read and then decide and ask if u dont understand ....
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13 Jan 2014 08:56 #159636 by T-Style
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I was thinking about this cycle
Cycle:
2x PGW Testocyp (250mg x 10ml)
2x LP Dianabol (10mg x 50)
1x Optional anti-estrogen (Arimidex or Letrozole)

My only problem is that the Testocyp also known as Depo gives me huge acne on my arms....boil like things. Which is weird as the Testan is almost the same thing but the Testan is for Veterinary use. Can i use Test Prop instead?

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13 Jan 2014 08:57 - 13 Jan 2014 08:58 #159637 by Oupa
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Whats your stats ? Age, Weight, Height, Bodyfat ?
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13 Jan 2014 09:08 #159639 by T-Style
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31 about 1.8m tall. I weigh 93kgs and body fat is at about 12 percent.

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13 Jan 2014 09:29 #159640 by mike123
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U talking about hives ..red itchy bumps on arms and chest stomache ?

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13 Jan 2014 09:58 #159644 by T-Style
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No im talking Huge Pimples that are Frikin sore. Mainly on my shoulders and forearms.
Would it be silly to do Equi350 and Dbol together?

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13 Jan 2014 10:39 - 13 Jan 2014 10:40 #159648 by mike123
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ok then u are acne prone ...dont have that problem Lets see what some of the more knowledgeables have to say ......U up MA.. :)
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13 Jan 2014 11:17 #159656 by doutzen
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Acne is acne, all you can do is keep yourself clean, multiple showers, some guys on this side of the pond will do a low dose accutane run alongside but it can be hepatoxic so if you're going to run other orals it might not be the best choice. Pantothetic acid in mega doses helps with acne, as will a quality tea tree oil and suntanning to dry out acne all can help to some degree. Try to keep blood levels as stable as you can Prop is one way to stabilize blood levels as you'd have to shoot it frequently so you're not getting big spikes but you can shoot any ester more frequently to avoid spikes. I'd rather use a long ester and shoot it ed vs prop, the pip from prop makes it a non starter for me. I assume equi350 is just boldenone and of course why wouldn't you be able to use it and dbol together? eq is a weak muscle builder and needs to be run for a long ass time to get benefits, think 16 weeks +, adds quality, vascularity, and hunger tho so along with other compounds it can be a nice addition but I'd expect other compounds to carry the load for gains.
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13 Jan 2014 11:41 #159658 by T-Style
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doutzen wrote: Acne is acne, all you can do is keep yourself clean, multiple showers, some guys on this side of the pond will do a low dose accutane run alongside but it can be hepatoxic so if you're going to run other orals it might not be the best choice. Pantothetic acid in mega doses helps with acne, as will a quality tea tree oil and suntanning to dry out acne all can help to some degree. Try to keep blood levels as stable as you can Prop is one way to stabilize blood levels as you'd have to shoot it frequently so you're not getting big spikes but you can shoot any ester more frequently to avoid spikes. I'd rather use a long ester and shoot it ed vs prop, the pip from prop makes it a non starter for me. I assume equi350 is just boldenone and of course why wouldn't you be able to use it and dbol together? eq is a weak muscle builder and needs to be run for a long ass time to get benefits, think 16 weeks +, adds quality, vascularity, and hunger tho so along with other compounds it can be a nice addition but I'd expect other compounds to carry the load for gains.


So in saying that what would you ideally recommend i use? Just a recommendation if you will for a "First Cycle"? I want to put on good muscle mass first time around and then take it from there.

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13 Jan 2014 12:36 #159662 by mike123
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Dbol and cyp ...pin the cyp twice a week and get /try a antibi from the doc for acne..Pct 2
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13 Jan 2014 12:51 #159663 by T-Style
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Ok I have decided after the most of the morning reading that i am more than likely going to go with 900mg TestE300 a week with 40mg Dbol a day.
Does that sound decent enough or would cyp be better?

Sorry i am being a rash but i really dont want to waste money and go and do the wrong thing.

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13 Jan 2014 13:03 #159664 by Oupa
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Test is test at the end of the day. Cyp or En, flip a coin and choose one.

More is not always better T-S, your diet depends how you grow, not the compound.
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13 Jan 2014 13:16 #159665 by Rhino
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Ye if you haven't cycled in 8 years 900 won't work any better than 600mg a week. All you'll get is extra sides.

Go big or go home...
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13 Jan 2014 13:46 #159667 by mike123
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500mg cyp or 600test E is enough especially if u want to keep Acne under control boet..
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13 Jan 2014 13:52 #159668 by T-Style
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Ok it all makes sense now that you bring it to my attention. Fantastic, thanks a million to everyone who has helped out in answering.
It is greatly Appreciated.

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14 Jan 2014 09:28 #159699 by T-Style
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I have changed my mind a bit after a bit of research and i was wondering if anyone could give me a thumbs up or thumbs down for my choice please.
I have decided to go with Test E and Dbol.

TestE 300mg a week for 6 weeks and 50mg Dbol for 6 weeks then stop dbol and up Test E to 600mg per week.
Does that sound better and does anyone think i should possibly add something else in?

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14 Jan 2014 09:47 #159701 by mike123
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Test E at 600mg per week is the norm... 40 mg Dbol for 25 days ...check the bridge period u can add a oral like winny before PCT if u want

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