20 week bulk and cut cycle

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20 Jan 2014 21:31 #160005 by godling777
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Hey guys this is a cycle I want to do in the coming year.

Currently I'm 21, 106 kg's, 180cm, 16% BF.
this will be my 3rd cycle and the goal will be to end up on 115kg's and drop about 4-8% BF and become insanely strong.

Its a 20 week cycle, of which first 10 are bulking and last 10 cutting.
Substance : Anapolon(Anadrol), Test enanth, EQ , Tren Enanth.
Week 1 : 50mg ed, 250mg/w , 0 , 400mg/w.
week 2 & 3 : 100mg ed, 250mg/w , 0 , 400mg/w.
week 4-6 : 150mg ed, 250mg/w , 0 , 400mg/w.
week 7&8 : 0, 250mg/w , 0 , 400mg/w.
week 9%10 : 0, 250mg/w , 500mg/w, 400mg/w.
week 11-14 : 0, 250mg/w , 500mg/w, 500mg/w.
week 15-20 : 0, 250mg/w , 500mg/w, 0.

All injectables wil be divided into wendnesday/sunday shots...

I'm thinking about dropping some winny in for the last 5 weeks.
what are your thoughts?

as for pct...
two weeks after last shot
nolva: 40/40/20/20/20 ed
clomid: 100/50/50/50 ed

will have an AI on hand, do you think I should run hcg through the whole cycle and use the AI to ensure that bloat and estrogen build up does not happen?

As for my diet its not the greatsest but I stick to a low carb high protein diet

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21 Jan 2014 11:31 #160024 by godling777
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And would you guys Clen to even better the chances of fatloss in the last 5 weeks?

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21 Jan 2014 18:31 - 23 Jan 2014 17:56 #160049 by Pyroclasm
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This is a really hectic third cycle! Overkill I.m.o, and have you thought about what your fourth, fifth, and sixth are gonna look like given that this is what your third cycle looks like?!

Because of the length of the cycke you should definitely run the hcg during your cycle.
I would rather just run Anadrol at 100mg for the 3-4 weeks. I like the idea of Anaps with this type of cycle.
Why so little test?
Leave the AI for gyno only. Remember the Anaps will make you gain crazy amounts of water! No getting around this but it is great for building muscle and strength.
14 Weeks of Tren are you out of your damn mind??! If you are not competing there is no reason to put your body through that, especially for a third cycle my dude that is rediculous. Run cabaser with the Tren to combat prolactin sides.
Start the EQ from week 1 and run it as long as you can.
I would indeed add Clen with Yohimbine too.

You need to get your diet solid before you go on this type of cycle.
Last edit: 23 Jan 2014 17:56 by Pyroclasm. Reason: Anadrol no longer than 4 weeks

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21 Jan 2014 18:35 #160050 by Pyroclasm
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PCT 3 nothing else! This means Clomid, Nolva, HCG again during, as well as Aromasin.

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21 Jan 2014 18:50 #160055 by Rhino
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Sorry Bud but no matter how hectic a cycle you plan there is NO way your going to gain 19kg of lean muscle.

Go big or go home...
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23 Jan 2014 13:15 #160197 by Empire
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pyro?100mg of anadrol a day for 6 weeks? welcome to blood pressure and nose bleed issues, i have done this and its not a great idea,i did it for a week and couldnt handle it so to advise this to a young guy for 6 weeks is just crazy, some of the gurus dont recommend over 75mg of anadrol a day.

i honestly prefer dianabol over anapolin for bulking as if u have taken anapolin u will notice the hunger killing affects of this drug, dianabol doesnt blunt appetite, so if u have no hunger how are u supposed to get in excess calories to put on major muscle.

the best advice for u to gain 19kgs is eat macdonalds 3x a day every day for 3 months,as for gaining 19kgs of muscle, u should look at doing this over years, what young guys such as yourself dont understand is that a muscle is alot stronger than a tendon, and when your muscles gets strong your tendons take a long time to catch up as there is not as much blood flow to tendons compared to muscles,so the problem is with getting too strong too quick is you can end up injuring yourself and having tendonitis,tendonosis etc etc etc, rather gain constantly rather than quickly. they say easy come,easy go for a reason, and trying to gain so much weight over a certain period of time is not a good idea, some of the best olympians have only gained 8-10Lbs per YEAR of lean stage contest weight.

slowly slowly catch a monkey, i can guarantee u if your diet is good,training is hard and heavy with adequate recovery time u will grow well!rather look at keeping your weight constant whilst getting body fat down rather than full on bulk diet, remember u cannot flex fat!
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23 Jan 2014 17:55 - 23 Jan 2014 18:38 #160208 by Pyroclasm
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Shit didn't notice that. Anadrol no longer than 4 weeks. You prefer D-bol cool fair enough. I know others who swear by Anapolan and get rediculous results from it (gains kept after cycle). The same people can't handle Dbol. The lesson- with orals you need to give them all a try and see which one works the best for you as an individual. Dbol also comes with a list of bad sides.

Add: This post is intended to be of benefit to godlike77, not to start a debate on orals.
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23 Jan 2014 23:46 - 23 Jan 2014 23:49 #160215 by godling777
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tnx gys for the input...
so you would drop the aboms for dbolls and drop the tren to only 10 weeks or so?

the test is only to help minimize the tren's sides.

would you advise to devide these into two separate cycles, if so how would you run the aboms test and tren or bdols test and tren ?

and would you add EQ to the mix in the bulk to negate the hunger killing effects?
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24 Jan 2014 10:42 #160238 by Empire
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yes drop anapolin for dbol, equi will never bring up the hunger killing effects of anapolin. rather do tren for the last 10 weeks as u will be reducing calories so u want as much muscle retention as possible.

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