NorthBoy Cycle Log

I wouldn't be able to function on such low Carbs

Rhino wrote: I wouldn't be able to function on such low Carbs

Rhino, where and what will you add as carbs? I don't want to gain weight that is not muscle. (Did that even sound right?)

Northboy u forget that carbs are thermogenic, and with the amount of gas u are using having higher carbs and Lower protein will refill glycogen stores, boost leptin and therfore boost thyroid levels and fuel work outs better meaning u can push heavier weights, build more muscle and therfore utilise more calories to maintain current lean body mass. Remember weight gain is not always related to fat gain, i refeed once a week, i was 92kgs on Sunday morning this morning I was 99.5kgs from replenished glycogen stores, fuller muscles and yes spilling over with water and retaining water, but body temperature is still up meaning thyroid function is up, i will drop that water by Thursday and be back to 92kgs. Ps this week's refeed was about 2500g of carbs, but i won't have gained any fat from it at all.

DJ wrote: Northboy u forget that carbs are thermogenic, and with the amount of gas u are using having higher carbs and Lower protein will refill glycogen stores, boost leptin and therfore boost thyroid levels and fuel work outs better meaning u can push heavier weights, build more muscle and therfore utilise more calories to maintain current lean body mass. Remember weight gain is not always related to fat gain, i refeed once a week, i was 92kgs on Sunday morning this morning I was 99.5kgs from replenished glycogen stores, fuller muscles and yes spilling over with water and retaining water, but body temperature is still up meaning thyroid function is up, i will drop that water by Thursday and be back to 92kgs. Ps this week's refeed was about 2500g of carbs, but i won't have gained any fat from it at all.

DJ as always everything here and what you helped me with before makes sense. Where in my daily plan would you add carbs and which food group, more oats perhaps?

Drop your protein portions down to 150g of meat raw weight per meal, add more sweet potato or potato like 300g instead of 150,have a chicken and potato Meal instead of the eggs. Drop the future life have pronutro and whey here with water, daily isn't the best u can up the oats to 50g from 20g.

DJ, will the following daily diet be better?(Except Sunday)

04h45 - Pre Workout Shake consisting of 50g Oats, 30g BSSA Whey, 2tsp. Jacobs coffee, 20g berries, half banana.

06h00 - Post Workout shake consisting of 30g BSSA Whey, 40g BSSA Primal Energy, 50g Oats.

09h00 - 60g Pronutro, 40g BSSA Whey, water.

12h30 - 150g steak or 150g lean mince or 150g skinless chicken breast or 150g fish with either 250g broccoli or 250g green beans or 250g mixed veg or 250g sweet potato or 250g potato wedges with 150g spinach.

15h30 - 150g chicken breast, 250g potato.

18h30 - 150g steak or 150g lean mince or 150g skinless chicken breast or 150g fish with either 250g broccoli or 250g green beans or 250g mixed veg or 250g sweet potato or 250g potato wedges with 150g spinach.

09h00 - Shake consisting of 40g BSSA whey protein isolate, 1 1/2 dessertspoon BSSA peanut butter, water+ice.

DJ wrote: Northboy u forget that carbs are thermogenic, and with the amount of gas u are using having higher carbs and Lower protein will refill glycogen stores, boost leptin and therfore boost thyroid levels and fuel work outs better meaning u can push heavier weights, build more muscle and therfore utilise more calories to maintain current lean body mass. Remember weight gain is not always related to fat gain, i refeed once a week, i was 92kgs on Sunday morning this morning I was 99.5kgs from replenished glycogen stores, fuller muscles and yes spilling over with water and retaining water, but body temperature is still up meaning thyroid function is up, i will drop that water by Thursday and be back to 92kgs. Ps this week's refeed was about 2500g of carbs, but i won't have gained any fat from it at all.

Interesting... It's funny how the fitness people (and by fitness people I mean the mainstream magazine stuff) go through "trends". This week it's low carb, then no carb, then paleo or whatever.

From personal experience I find if my carbs are lower, yes I am "lighter" cos I am holding less water... but I am also weaker and have less stamina in gym.

Glad I am not the only one with weight that climbs a couple kg if I have too many carbs. DJ, do you find your weight climbs because of the carbs? For example, if I eat some bread or something like that I might climb like 2kgs overnight.

Just monitor yourself closely Northboy us old boys pick up boep fat with hi carb were as the younger guys grow muscle ..

Warren yes my weight climbs cos of carbs. Example after a refeed I will gain about 3-4kgs the morning after, 2nd morning after I will have gained any where between 4 and 7kgs. Like on Sunday I was 92 kgs Monday I was 96.5 and then Tuesday morning 99.5kgs. I obviously am extremely dehydrated as getting in monster amount of carbs it is really difficult to get fluid intake high with out feeling major discomfort from the amount of food in the gut. So when fluid returns to normal u retain massive amounts of water and you keep fulling out muscle wise. I usually look best the 4th day after a refeed as muscles are full and water has started to come off from the refeed. I usually take 4 days to drop the water after a refeed. Like this am I was 95kgs and tomorrow will most likely be back to 92.

Good day DJ and the rest of the "monsters" :lol:
I have changed my diet to the plan above starting today. Just one question: You said I must add Pronutro(90g) and Whey(30g) to my 09h00 meal instead of Futurelife due to Futurelife being full of Soy. When I bought the Pronutro yesterday I read on the box it contains 22% Soy. What is the reason behind this?

Shit didn't quite realise that. Look those products were designed to feed malnourished kids. So they need a cheap protein source to fill the products.

Now I am super confused. :huh: Pronutro with whey or Futurelife or none of the afore mentioned?

Now knowing the breakdown of the pronutro I would switch it out. Could even do all bran flakes, mix your whey with water and pour over if u are looking for something convienient

I love my fat free yogard with 3 scoops whey mixed with blown flakes & muesli

2014-03-10 Update after week 7:
Weight - 91,2kg
BF = 16%
Strength remains the same.
Sleep almost non existing.
Still taking 0,5mg Cabaser every 5th day.

NorthBoy wrote:

mike123 wrote: hoe se ....wat is jou lengte boet ?

Lengte = 1.74m
Vergeet om te noem dat volle PCT 2 gedoen sal word.

Hey Northboy, not to good with Afrikaans bud. Are you saying you are going to do a PCT2 and you are using Tren?
Would it not be wiser to use PCT3? I use PCT3 if I pin 19nors.

Instructions:
!Day 1-7: - Clomiphene citrate is used as 50 mg twice daily for full 7 days. !
Day 8-37: - Tamoxifene citrate at 20mg per day for full 30 days. - Liquid-Pharma HCG 5000 comes in one unit vial, multi-dosed, at 5000IU. The
vial is accompanied by 2ml sterile water for mixing. This is what should be done. Draw up the 2ml ampule provided with the HCG and mix it
into the powdered bottle. The HCG is now used from day 8 onwards as 20IU's drawn into insulin needle once per day. It is then used one day
on, one day off. !It is important to note that this PCT is not effective against highly suppressive compounds like Nandrolone or Trenbolone.

2014-03-18 Update after week 8:
Weight - 90,5kg (Down 0,7kg)
BF = 16%
Strength remains the same.
Sleeping a little bit better.
Still taking 0,5mg Cabaser every 5th day.

Areas of concern: Today left nipple got itchy and sore.....first time ever.
Second bottle of Dragon Tritren 150 also only produced 9ml.
About 1,5ml left of PGW TestCyp....do I pin that on Thursday night?
I bought everything for PCT2, but as Fillet stated I need to do PCT3?
Although I gained about 5kg from start of cycle and I can see a visible difference, I am not satisfied.....Perhaps the brand of Tren is not on standard?

Whatsup, EDIT

Only u will be able to judge if the tren is sub standard. To be honest on my pgw tren ace, I am getting much much leaner and weigt has actually gone up.. I am doing 2 hours of mod intensity cardio and restricted calories and my strength is going up every week.

Lewis056 wrote: Whatsup, EDIT

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NorthBoy wrote: 2014-03-18 Update after week 8:
Weight - 90,5kg (Down 0,7kg)
BF = 16%
Strength remains the same.
Sleeping a little bit better.
Still taking 0,5mg Cabaser every 5th day.

Areas of concern: Today left nipple got itchy and sore.....first time ever.
Second bottle of Dragon Tritren 150 also only produced 9ml.
About 1,5ml left of PGW TestCyp....do I pin that on Thursday night?
I bought everything for PCT2, but as Fillet stated I need to do PCT3?
Although I gained about 5kg from start of cycle and I can see a visible difference, I am not satisfied.....Perhaps the brand of Tren is not on standard?

Could somebody please respond to my post.... :lol: especially areas of concern.....

Dont play with your nipple, any puffiness or lumps? Are you using an a.i?
You will need a pct3 mate
Maybe the tren was kak, could also be the calorie intake was kak

NorthBoy wrote: Areas of concern: Today left nipple got itchy and sore.....first time ever. Los hom, nie fiddle nie. Jy sal weet as iets fout is.
Second bottle of Dragon Tritren 150 also only produced 9ml. Next time buy PGW :silly:
About 1,5ml left of PGW TestCyp....do I pin that on Thursday night? Wont make much difference if you split the dose or pin it once off.
I bought everything for PCT2, but as Fillet stated I need to do PCT3? Did you pin hcg in cycle ?
Although I gained about 5kg from start of cycle and I can see a visible difference, I am not satisfied.....Perhaps the brand of Tren is not on standard? My opinion, I think you adjusted your diet to late.