Cycle Proposition

Hi Guys

Stats:

Age:30
Height:1.78
Weight: 77kg
BF: 10-12 %

Would something like this work?

Im still on a keto a diet nearing my goal but naturally I don’t think ill make it by June 25th to be done with my cycle etc

So my proposal is as follows

Week 1-4 Test Prop 100mg M/W/F
Week 1-8 Test E 100mg M/W/F or M/F? (Not too sure how the pinning schedule will work here) plan is 600mg Test per week until only Test E @600mg PW?
Week 1-4 Var @ 40mg per day
Week 8-10 prop
Week 8-12 Var or Tbol
Clen and yohimbine for maybe the first 4-6 weeks depending on results

PCT 2 – If im not mistaken
Ill probably be using HCG from week 5 or during PCT
Letro on hand
Liver supps, multivits etc

My reasoning is for the 1st month I still want to do keto to get to my ultimate bf goal of around 8% or lower if possible hence the prop and var at low dose.
Thereafter when the test E becomes available start with a lean bulk kind of like a TKD( targeted keto diet) only in this case Keto wont be established because of the overuse of protein and obviously the carbs, so more like a controlled carb bulk coz this getting puffy with no abs thing isn’t working for me

Is this overkill? What am I missing?

Thanks for your time

Cycle is messy and over complicated IMO

1-10 Test E 600mg EW (1ml-Mon 1ml-Fri)
1-6 Var 60mg
10-14 Winny 40-50mg
- Add Clen and yohimbine during bridge with winny.

Thats a more effective and less complicated cycle for your goals.

That's allot of oral's for a 4 week break, you can do some serious damage to your liver, even though Anavar is allot safer

Thanks for the replies guys

@ Manery your suggestion looks better,however If I calculate timing then it goes over the 25th June with finishing PCT> I need to be done with pct by that time

How about frontloading with only prop and using Clen+Yoh first four weeks then bridge with Var or Tbol?

I would rather front load with Testosterone Propionate... Anavar needs to be run for 6 weeks as you really start to get the effects at week 5/6.

4 weeks is more then enough for my liver to recover from 6 weeks var. People run var at 80mgs for 10+ weeks and are fine. Just make sure you use liver support and don't touch any other liver toxic substances like alchol and etc. if your under time constraints why don't you run just prop and Var like this.


1-8 Test prop 150mg EOD 525mg EW
3-10 Var 60mg ED

Simple and effective. I would up the Var to 80mg.

My 3c

When the liver gets damaged that damaged part never gets better, when you do blood tests it is only showing the part of the liver that is active, yes the liver regenerates, no damaged parts do not. I have used steroids long enough to know not to think I'm special and won't suffer the side effects, because I have suffered just about every side effect. We consume toxins day in and day out, our livers suffer strain by normal "healthy" living, don't push anything that doesn't need to get pushed because there is no going back once damage has been done.

With limited cycle time...

Run a test prop + var cycle

prop week 1 to 8 @1.5ml eod
var week 2 to 10 @ 60mg ed

pct2

00pump wrote: When the liver gets damaged that damaged part never gets better, when you do blood tests it is only showing the part of the liver that is active, yes the liver regenerates, no damaged parts do not. I have used steroids long enough to know not to think I'm special and won't suffer the side effects, because I have suffered just about every side effect. We consume toxins day in and day out, our livers suffer strain by normal "healthy" living, don't push anything that doesn't need to get pushed because there is no going back once damage has been done.

Dang right Pump! People seem to not consider these things.

FIllet wrote:

00pump wrote: When the liver gets damaged that damaged part never gets better, when you do blood tests it is only showing the part of the liver that is active, yes the liver regenerates, no damaged parts do not. I have used steroids long enough to know not to think I'm special and won't suffer the side effects, because I have suffered just about every side effect. We consume toxins day in and day out, our livers suffer strain by normal "healthy" living, don't push anything that doesn't need to get pushed because there is no going back once damage has been done.

Dang right Pump! People seem to not consider these things.

This is a long video so watch it when you have time. He also mentions in here about his BCAA intake when he was shot in the liver and how it helped repair etc. Also has a small mention on Marius Dohne and why he had to stop competing. Besides all of that i found this VERY informative with regards to protein intake and cardio etc.

Thanks

Oupa would this then mean?

Week 1 - M W F S = 6ml
Week 2 - T Th S = 4.5ml

Sorry just want to clarify

Simplify it..

Monday, Wednesday , Friday totals 450mg prop per week.

OR for more stable blood levels every 2nd day 150 x 3.5= 525mg EW

Up to you but im a firm a believer in keeping blood levels as stable as possible to lesson potential side effects.

Half life is 4 days, and that is perfect for m/w/f pinning.

I have noticed less sides while pinning E2D with prop and have read others who have also had less sides. Most will be fine pinning M/W/F but if you want to be conservative or you know your are prone to sides related to hormonal balances then go with ever 2nd day or even everyday if you want to.

I will do the MWF pinning and if any sides ill pin EOD and check the difference