Testosterone E / Trenbolone E Cycle

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18 Feb 2014 12:20 #161646 by Benjii
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Hope this works...thanks a lot Oupa...as always the ol' man saves the day lol

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18 Feb 2014 12:31 #161650 by Empire
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Your diet is your downfall. U could be making good gains with a decent diet and no juice.

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18 Feb 2014 12:34 #161651 by Empire
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And that's one of crappest leg routines I have seen. Did u get this program from one of those personal trainers that looks like he is the first princess of a beauty pagent with no legs?

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18 Feb 2014 13:28 #161655 by Benjii
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Well DJ what would your suggestions then be regarding diet and workout...I do tend to change workouts very often...especially when I feel like I have more in me on that day I'll bomb the legs...other days might be upper body...

As I've said man dude...I'm here to advice (advice I will follow). To answer your question about the personal trainer...he's quite a huge Mofo...he actually competes...

As for the cycle...Trend Ace would be a safer bet? No one seems to answer my previous questions

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18 Feb 2014 13:48 #161656 by Bruno
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On legs: looking at that program, it seems like more thought was put into biceps than legs. Leave the leg extension and leg curls alone... Rather do leg press and romanian deads. Add in lunges if you have gas left over.

A general rule I like to follow: for packing on size, stick to compound lifts at high intensity and use isolation exercises, if any, to top things off.

Remember set and rep ranges say jackshit if you don't put your weights (or at least percentage of max like 5rm or 1rm)...10 reps squatting with 0.5 plate on each side is different to 3 plates on each side.
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18 Feb 2014 14:27 #161657 by Empire
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Bud I have written so many dieting stickys, why don't u read those and then ask questions. Nothing like education for yourself instead of being spoon fed?

Training as bruno said, stick to the basics. I would stick to a single training programme for 8weeks and keep a log of each work out you do and aim to better it each week either with heavier weights or with more reps. That's the best way to progress!

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18 Feb 2014 14:48 #161658 by Benjii
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Should I instead get Tren Ace or stick with Tren E? That's what I would also like to know DJ...After reading numerous articles, yes before I started, forums say Tren is very powerful, but if you keep it to low doses you should be fine...pretty much all of them said the same. You told me a different story and that's why I'm trying to understand. You've been around, and everyone has only positive things to say about you...so that's why I would like your input on this please. Ace clearly has less of a risk...at least...not for weeks and weeks of feeling like shit...

I've forgotten about the stickys...will read them again. Never expected any spoon feeding...just good input from a very experienced member

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18 Feb 2014 15:45 #161661 by T-Style
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The Side Effects of Trenbolone Enanthate:
Theres no way to deny it; when it comes to the side effects of Trenbolone Enanthate we have one of the potentially harshest steroids on earth. As well see, this is a steroid that carries many traditional possible anabolic steroid side effects; however, it carries a group that is largely unique unto its own, and unfortunately that is very difficult to predict. As a non-aromatizing steroid, and as a result one that carries no testosterone to estrogen conversion many assume gynecomastia is of no concern; they would be wrong. As a 19-nor anabolic steroid, Trenbolone Enanthate carries a strong progestin nature, and progesterone can induce gynecomastia; however, it is typically only a problem in men who are sensitive to the condition. While a non-aromatizing steroid, Aromatase Inhibitors will protect against progesterone induced gynecomastia, and as youll more than likely be supplementing with testosterone too an Aromatase Inhibitor is a pretty good idea.

This leads to another important point; Trenbolone Enanthate, as with all Trenbolone and 19-nor anabolic steroids is as suppressive to natural testosterone as a steroid can be. For this reason, exogenous testosterone supplementation is necessary in-order to prevent not only a potentially bothersome but extremely unhealthy low testosterone condition. The form of testosterone you choose does not matter; all that matters is you provide enough testosterone for your body for proper and healthy function.

Beyond gynecomastia, Trenbolone Enanthate can promote high blood pressure; however, this one appears to be largely dose dependent. If you already suffer from high blood pressure, you should not touch this or any anabolic steroid, but if youre healthy and supplement with responsible doses and continue to live in a way that promotes the continuation of healthy levels you should be fine. The same can be said of cholesterol; however, to a lesser degree.

Despite lacking no direct dihydrotestosterone (DHT) nature, Trenbolone Enanthate can be very unfriendly to the scalp; men who are predisposed to male pattern baldness will more than likely lose some of their hair; men who are not predisposed have no concern. Further, due to its extreme androgenic activity, the Trenbolone hormone can have a negative impact on the prostate by way of causing prostate enlargement; however, it can be dose dependent as well as surround other anabolic steroids being used such as those with a strong DHT nature. At any rate, it is imperative you do not supplement if you already suffer from prostate issues, and just as important you supplement with responsible doses for responsible periods of time; you must not supplement with the Trenbolone hormone indefinitely or you will greatly risk damage to your prostate. It should also be noted; the Trenbolone hormone appears to be one of the few anabolic steroids that do not carry the C17-alpha alkylated (C17-aa) nature that can increase liver enzymes, and as a result it should be treated as if it were a C17-aa anabolic steroid. Further, in some men it can cause undue stress to the kidneys; use must be of a responsible nature or you can easily get into trouble.

The above largely represents the side effects of Trenbolone Enanthate most will need to concern themselves with; however, as mentioned there is a grouping that is a bit unique to this compound. There are four specific side effects of Trenbolone Enanthate that while they can be dose dependent they are in most cases dependent on your individualistic nature; in short, your personal response. In some ways, these side effects will not seem like much, they include anxiety, insomnia, night sweats and rapid heart rate. Such effects can be so harsh, they will display themselves in ways you cannot imagine, and far beyond what any man can tolerate. If such effects occur, you can try lowering your dose, but more than likely youll need to discontinue supplementation altogether. If your dose is of a responsible nature and such effects occur, unfortunately, this probably means the Trenbolone hormone is not for you. It may not seem fair, and maybe its not, but thats life; its not always fair.

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18 Feb 2014 19:12 - 18 Feb 2014 20:17 #161675 by Pyroclasm
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@T-Style: Thanx for sharing bro! Something I didn't understand is this part:

T-Style wrote: It should also be noted; the Trenbolone hormone appears to be one of the few anabolic steroids that do not carry the C17-alpha alkylated (C17-aa) nature that can increase liver enzymes, and as a result it should be treated as if it were a C17-aa anabolic steroid.


i.e If A does not equal B, then as a result A equals B.
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18 Feb 2014 21:34 #161690 by Oupa
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DJ wrote: And that's one of crappest leg routines I have seen. Did u get this program from one of those personal trainers that looks like he is the first princess of a beauty pagent with no legs?


:lol: Iemand gaan jou nog eendag dik moer.

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19 Feb 2014 09:09 #161725 by Empire
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Basically the answer u are looking for is : stick with the tren en, no point in changing it now that u have started, just be aware if u suffer from side effects that the time for them to go away if u stop is gonna be much longer than that of having used the acetate.
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19 Feb 2014 10:07 #161740 by Benjii
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Thanks a lot DJ and everyone else that have given their input. I got Tren Aces yesterday as well...since you got me so worried about the sides of Tren E. Now what...Tren Aces takes 2/3 days for its half life...Tren E 2/3 weeks...what you say, I will go by DJ...but would it make more sense to rather go the Tren Ace way since I have only jabbed myself 1 ml of it so far...time is here for the next...if Tren Ace will be better I really dont mind jabbing myself every day or every other day...just dont wanna feel like shit for 3 weeks, thats all

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19 Feb 2014 10:24 #161743 by mike123
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Use and finish the Ace and if no sides then finish the E....

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19 Feb 2014 10:24 #161744 by Empire
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Bud u might not feel like shit that's the thing.stick with what u doing. There are sides such as aggression associated with tren that some people don't like. I dont like them at all and have been driving down the road and even the trees blowing in the wind have pissed me off. That's the kinda sides I suffer from tren, that and tossing and turning all night in a pool of sweat even though the aircon is blasting 17 degrees!

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19 Feb 2014 10:26 #161745 by mike123
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at what dose DJ ?

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