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Anavar + Test [ Weight loss and Strength ]
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02 Mar 2014 16:13 #162763
by Swart
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Hi Guys, looking for some input please:
Planning second 8-10 week 2nd cycle Anavar + 250mg Test
I need advice on how to keep my weight / water mass _down_ during this cycle,
You will be able to see on my cycle log below and how I absolutely ballooned (including my strength) in a very short period of time on my first cycle. ( nice but not quite what I was looking for )
{ I have maintain most of my strength since }
The purpose of this (2nd) cycle is to LOSE weight and _maintain_ the current strength I have, now I know this is a strange requirement but in my world power-to-weight ratio is king.
Anyone that can recommended a cycle that would encourage the strength Anavar + Test-E gives me and does not encourage weight gain. Perhaps an additional component that gets rid of the bloat?
I am unable to run clen to reliably because some of my training requirements [ aka I flat-line my heart rate near max for sometimes hours on end.] ( I know clen runs happy with a 60-80% heart rate )
I'm on a calorie starved high-fat low-carb
Any suggestions will be much appreciated
Regards
J
## RUN 1 LOG ##
###############
### WEEK 1 ###
############### [81kg]
Day 1 - 20mg var [30th August]
Day 2 - 20mg var
Day 3 - 20mg var
Day 4 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 5 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 6 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen ( Cramps added taurine to combo )
Day 7 - 20mg var + [250mg Test] [5th Sept]
###############
### WEEK 2 ###
###############
Day 8 - 20mg var
Day 9 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen [7th Sept]
Day 10 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 11 - 20mg var
Day 12 - 20mg var + [250mg Test] [10th Sept]
Day 13 - 20mg var
Day 14 - 40mg var
###############
### WEEK 3 ###
###############
Day 15 - 20mg var
Day 16 - 40mg var
Day 17 - 40mg var
Day 18 - 40mg var + 40mcg clen [16th Sept]
Day 19 - 40mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 20 - 40mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 21 - 40mg var + [250mg Test] [19th Sept]
###############
### WEEK 4 ###
###############
Day 22 - 20mg var
Day 23 - 40mg var
Day 24 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 25 - 40mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 26 - 40mg var [24th Sept]
Day 27 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 28 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen + [250mg Test]
###############
### WEEK 5 ###
###############
Day 29 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 30 - 20mg var
Day 31 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 32 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen [30th Sept]
Day 33 - 20mg var
Day 34 - 20mg var + [250mg Test]
Day 35 - 40mg var
###############
### WEEK 6 ###
###############
Day 36 - 40mg var
Day 37 - 40mg var [5th October]
Day 38 - 40mg var
Day 39 - 40mg var
Day 40 - 40mg var
Day 41 - 40mg var
Day 42 - 40mg var + [250mg Test] [10th Oct]
###############
### WEEK 7 ###
############### [92kg]
Day 43 - 40mg var
Day 44 - 20mg var
Day 45 - 40mg var
Day 46 - 40mg var [14th Oct]
Day 47 - 40mg var
Day 48 - 40mg var + [250mg Test]
Day 49 - 40mg var
###############
### WEEK 8 ###
###############
Day 50 - None [18th Oct]
Day 51 - 60mg var + [250mg Test]
Day 52 - 40mg var
Day 53 - 60mg var
Day 54 - 20mg var
Day 55 - 20mg var + [250mg Test]
Day 56 - 20mg var
###############
### WEEK 9 ###
############### [94kg]
Day 57 - 20mg var [25th Oct]
Day 58 - 20mg var
Day 59 - 20mg var + [250mg Test]
Day 60 - 20mg var
Day 61 - 20mg var
Day 62 - 20mg var
Day 63 - [250mg Test] 31st Oct
###############
## WEEK 10 ###
############### [93kg]
Day 64 - None
Day 65 - 40mg var
Day 66 - 40mg var + [250mg Test] 3rd Nov
Day 67 - 40mg var
Day 68 - 40mg var
Day 69 - None
Day 70 - [250mg Test] 7th Nov
[93.5Kg]
# PCT start 6th Dec
# Clomid
Day 1 - 50mg x 2
Day 2 - 50mg x 2
Day 3 - 50mg x 2
Day 4 - 50mg x 2
Day 5 - 50mg x 2
Day 6 - 50mg x 2
Day 7 - 50mg x 2
# Nolva
Day 1 - 20mg
Day 2 - 20mg
Day 3 - 20mg
Day 4 - 20mg
Day 5 - 20mg
Day 6 - 20mg
Day 7 - 20mg
Day 8 - 20mg
Day 9 - 20mg
Day 10 - 20mg
Day 11 - 20mg
Day 12 - 20mg
Day 13 - 20mg
Day 14 - 20mg
Day 15 - 20mg
Day 16 - 20mg
Day 17 - 20mg
Day 18 - 20mg
Day 19 - 20mg
Day 20 - 20mg
Day 21 - 20mg
Day 22 - 20mg [3rd Jan]
Done. 83kg
Planning second 8-10 week 2nd cycle Anavar + 250mg Test
I need advice on how to keep my weight / water mass _down_ during this cycle,
You will be able to see on my cycle log below and how I absolutely ballooned (including my strength) in a very short period of time on my first cycle. ( nice but not quite what I was looking for )
{ I have maintain most of my strength since }
The purpose of this (2nd) cycle is to LOSE weight and _maintain_ the current strength I have, now I know this is a strange requirement but in my world power-to-weight ratio is king.
Anyone that can recommended a cycle that would encourage the strength Anavar + Test-E gives me and does not encourage weight gain. Perhaps an additional component that gets rid of the bloat?
I am unable to run clen to reliably because some of my training requirements [ aka I flat-line my heart rate near max for sometimes hours on end.] ( I know clen runs happy with a 60-80% heart rate )
I'm on a calorie starved high-fat low-carb
Any suggestions will be much appreciated
Regards
J
## RUN 1 LOG ##
###############
### WEEK 1 ###
############### [81kg]
Day 1 - 20mg var [30th August]
Day 2 - 20mg var
Day 3 - 20mg var
Day 4 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 5 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 6 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen ( Cramps added taurine to combo )
Day 7 - 20mg var + [250mg Test] [5th Sept]
###############
### WEEK 2 ###
###############
Day 8 - 20mg var
Day 9 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen [7th Sept]
Day 10 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 11 - 20mg var
Day 12 - 20mg var + [250mg Test] [10th Sept]
Day 13 - 20mg var
Day 14 - 40mg var
###############
### WEEK 3 ###
###############
Day 15 - 20mg var
Day 16 - 40mg var
Day 17 - 40mg var
Day 18 - 40mg var + 40mcg clen [16th Sept]
Day 19 - 40mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 20 - 40mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 21 - 40mg var + [250mg Test] [19th Sept]
###############
### WEEK 4 ###
###############
Day 22 - 20mg var
Day 23 - 40mg var
Day 24 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 25 - 40mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 26 - 40mg var [24th Sept]
Day 27 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 28 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen + [250mg Test]
###############
### WEEK 5 ###
###############
Day 29 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 30 - 20mg var
Day 31 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen
Day 32 - 20mg var + 40mcg clen [30th Sept]
Day 33 - 20mg var
Day 34 - 20mg var + [250mg Test]
Day 35 - 40mg var
###############
### WEEK 6 ###
###############
Day 36 - 40mg var
Day 37 - 40mg var [5th October]
Day 38 - 40mg var
Day 39 - 40mg var
Day 40 - 40mg var
Day 41 - 40mg var
Day 42 - 40mg var + [250mg Test] [10th Oct]
###############
### WEEK 7 ###
############### [92kg]
Day 43 - 40mg var
Day 44 - 20mg var
Day 45 - 40mg var
Day 46 - 40mg var [14th Oct]
Day 47 - 40mg var
Day 48 - 40mg var + [250mg Test]
Day 49 - 40mg var
###############
### WEEK 8 ###
###############
Day 50 - None [18th Oct]
Day 51 - 60mg var + [250mg Test]
Day 52 - 40mg var
Day 53 - 60mg var
Day 54 - 20mg var
Day 55 - 20mg var + [250mg Test]
Day 56 - 20mg var
###############
### WEEK 9 ###
############### [94kg]
Day 57 - 20mg var [25th Oct]
Day 58 - 20mg var
Day 59 - 20mg var + [250mg Test]
Day 60 - 20mg var
Day 61 - 20mg var
Day 62 - 20mg var
Day 63 - [250mg Test] 31st Oct
###############
## WEEK 10 ###
############### [93kg]
Day 64 - None
Day 65 - 40mg var
Day 66 - 40mg var + [250mg Test] 3rd Nov
Day 67 - 40mg var
Day 68 - 40mg var
Day 69 - None
Day 70 - [250mg Test] 7th Nov
[93.5Kg]
# PCT start 6th Dec
# Clomid
Day 1 - 50mg x 2
Day 2 - 50mg x 2
Day 3 - 50mg x 2
Day 4 - 50mg x 2
Day 5 - 50mg x 2
Day 6 - 50mg x 2
Day 7 - 50mg x 2
# Nolva
Day 1 - 20mg
Day 2 - 20mg
Day 3 - 20mg
Day 4 - 20mg
Day 5 - 20mg
Day 6 - 20mg
Day 7 - 20mg
Day 8 - 20mg
Day 9 - 20mg
Day 10 - 20mg
Day 11 - 20mg
Day 12 - 20mg
Day 13 - 20mg
Day 14 - 20mg
Day 15 - 20mg
Day 16 - 20mg
Day 17 - 20mg
Day 18 - 20mg
Day 19 - 20mg
Day 20 - 20mg
Day 21 - 20mg
Day 22 - 20mg [3rd Jan]
Done. 83kg
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03 Mar 2014 08:01 - 03 Mar 2014 08:03 #162805
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Just do the Anavar cycle as per the sight in the articles sect 60mg for 8 weeks
And work out your maintenance calories minus 250 to 500
And work out your maintenance calories minus 250 to 500
Last edit: 03 Mar 2014 08:03 by mike123.
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03 Mar 2014 10:33 #162823
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Good judgement comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgement.
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What mike123 said.
If you have some extra cash lying around can add in Primo.
Another cycle which was suggested to me for exactly the same reason which looks so good I'm probably going to do it (just need to save cash cause its costly).
Week 1-12: Test En @300mgx2 (I.e two shot per week. You can do this Monday mornings and Thursday evenings, but it's very flexible)
Week 1-5: T-Bol @60mg ED
Week 9-16: Anavar @60mg ED (This means Anavar on your bridging period)
Week 5-14: HCG @250iu twice a week. This prevents testicular atrophy and makes for a much smoother PCT phase.
Plenty of liver support! Milk thistle before cycle, then when on cycle Liv52 or Cruciale etc.
Joint support for the DHT, but I feel one needs to run it ED regardless of whether you are on cycle or not.
Arimidex on hand (so don't use it unless you experience gyno symptoms)
PCT starts 30 days after last shot of Test-En.
PCT 1
You can add Proviron to your cycle @50/60mg ED if you have the cash to burn but its not necessary
If you have some extra cash lying around can add in Primo.
Another cycle which was suggested to me for exactly the same reason which looks so good I'm probably going to do it (just need to save cash cause its costly).
Week 1-12: Test En @300mgx2 (I.e two shot per week. You can do this Monday mornings and Thursday evenings, but it's very flexible)
Week 1-5: T-Bol @60mg ED
Week 9-16: Anavar @60mg ED (This means Anavar on your bridging period)
Week 5-14: HCG @250iu twice a week. This prevents testicular atrophy and makes for a much smoother PCT phase.
Plenty of liver support! Milk thistle before cycle, then when on cycle Liv52 or Cruciale etc.
Joint support for the DHT, but I feel one needs to run it ED regardless of whether you are on cycle or not.
Arimidex on hand (so don't use it unless you experience gyno symptoms)
PCT starts 30 days after last shot of Test-En.
PCT 1
You can add Proviron to your cycle @50/60mg ED if you have the cash to burn but its not necessary
Good judgement comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgement.
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