Second cycle same or change?

Good day Gents/Ladies

Should ones second cycle change?
Ie If i am doing Test E and Dbol on my first Cycle should i choose a different approach so that the body does not build up resistance to the 2 chemicals?
I have gained decent weight and size so far in my "first" Cycle and i have i have 5 weeks to go till i am finished my cycle and then another 4 weeks till i start my PCT.
If it is a good idea to change my cycle what would you guys recommend that i go on? Obviously to bulk as i would ideally like to get atleast 1 more bulking cycle in before the comp next year.

Advice will be greatly appreciated.
If you have not seen my progress you can see here below.
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/11-gene...-what-you-guys-think

If it works for you then it doesnt have to change...It all depends on your goals bud!

JacobRudolf wrote: If it works for you then it doesnt have to change...It all depends on your goals bud!

Surely if thats working then other stronger stuff will work even better? Excuse my ignorance but we all take gear for one reason and thats to get bigger and better. I want to win next year and i want to be in phenomenal shape and not good, if you get what i am saying. I know its not all about the gear so my eating is and still will be as good as i can have it. I was thinking of doing this cycle possibly....Dianabol, Testen, Deca & Winstrol (Intermediate bulking cycle). Yes/no/maybe?? :whistle:

What class will you be competing ?

i believe that more isnt always better, if you can obtain good or brilliant results using as little as possible thats best. just because u are growing and getting good results doesnt mean you wont carry on getting the same results on the next cycle u do containing the same compounds.

i was always more is best but this last year i took as little as i could and still got amazing results,had less side effects and less strain on my system. so stick at what u are doing, maybe just increase the dosage slightly. rather start saving your money for the anabolics for next year because thats where things become expensive in contest prep, the short esters need to be injected more often meaning you will use more, then there is the orals and food and fat burners and and and... competing is costly, i have found that out big time. and then if u wanna hire a coach to help u with your prep thats also an added cost. so rather save now and do it properly, look at doing a 16-20 weeks prep and use the best compounds u can which are gonna be costly. i mean i am going through a bottle of test prop,masteron prop and tren ace every roughly every 20days. so think about being on short esters for 8 weeks, thats pretty much 3 bottles of each. work that out and thats costly, add in anavar and proviron and clen and yohimbine and t3 to that and look at where this is going.... thats not even considering using gh and igf or anything fancy.

Oupa wrote: What class will you be competing ?

In all honesty i have NO IDEA. I would like to compete in the senior men over 80 but i dont know how much water fat etc i am holding though. Does 80 and up sound realistic to you Oupa?

Or do i have to do a novice first?

u dont have to do the novice, u can go into a senior mens line up. at 175 at 85kgs isnt bad but u would wanna look at doing under 90kgs, so come in as close to 90 as possible but as lean as possible. u would do well as a light heavy

DJ wrote: i believe that more isnt always better, if you can obtain good or brilliant results using as little as possible thats best. just because u are growing and getting good results doesnt mean you wont carry on getting the same results on the next cycle u do containing the same compounds.

i was always more is best but this last year i took as little as i could and still got amazing results,had less side effects and less strain on my system. so stick at what u are doing, maybe just increase the dosage slightly. rather start saving your money for the anabolics for next year because thats where things become expensive in contest prep, the short esters need to be injected more often meaning you will use more, then there is the orals and food and fat burners and and and... competing is costly, i have found that out big time. and then if u wanna hire a coach to help u with your prep thats also an added cost. so rather save now and do it properly, look at doing a 16-20 weeks prep and use the best compounds u can which are gonna be costly. i mean i am going through a bottle of test prop,masteron prop and tren ace every roughly every 20days. so think about being on short esters for 8 weeks, thats pretty much 3 bottles of each. work that out and thats costly, add in anavar and proviron and clen and yohimbine and t3 to that and look at where this is going.... thats not even considering using gh and igf or anything fancy.

Okay so stick to what i am doing and save for the short esters....Got it. Wont my body build up resistance to what i am taking? Thats the last thing i need is to spend money on gear and not be able to use it.....or do i have that wrong? I am slowly but surely realizing that its expensive to compete and its gonna break me but i HAVE TO DO IT. Even "if" it is just once.

DJ wrote: u dont have to do the novice, u can go into a senior mens line up. at 175 at 85kgs isnt bad but u would wanna look at doing under 90kgs, so come in as close to 90 as possible but as lean as possible. u would do well as a light heavy

So from what you have seen and can see its achievable for me? Hard work but achievable?

not if u take time off and do your pcts etc. so not as such resistance. if u training hard and heavy, eating enough food and getting enough rest u will carry on growing...

T-Style wrote:

DJ wrote: u dont have to do the novice, u can go into a senior mens line up. at 175 at 85kgs isnt bad but u would wanna look at doing under 90kgs, so come in as close to 90 as possible but as lean as possible. u would do well as a light heavy

So from what you have seen and can see its achievable for me? Hard work but achievable?

yea if u pull your finger out your ass and stop training like a little girl using fisher price weights i am sure anything is possible

yea if u pull your finger out your ass and stop training like a little girl using fisher price weights i am sure anything is possible [/quote]

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!! :lol:

gonna suggest if u gonna compete u need to get your home situations cleared up first, its hard enough as it is, and to have added stress from your mrs and kids etc aint gonna make it any easier, u gonna be tired, u are gonna be grumpy,and u are gonna be moody. when u are all of the above and u get admin and drama be it from your family,your friends or your kids u are gonna feel like u are gonna snap! so get that sorted, get the mrs and parents behind u to support, then consider it.

DJ wrote: gonna suggest if u gonna compete u need to get your home situations cleared up first, its hard enough as it is, and to have added stress from your mrs and kids etc aint gonna make it any easier, u gonna be tired, u are gonna be grumpy,and u are gonna be moody. when u are all of the above and u get admin and drama be it from your family,your friends or your kids u are gonna feel like u are gonna snap! so get that sorted, get the mrs and parents behind u to support, then consider it.

Good advice

DJ wrote: gonna suggest if u gonna compete u need to get your home situations cleared up first, its hard enough as it is, and to have added stress from your mrs and kids etc aint gonna make it any easier, u gonna be tired, u are gonna be grumpy,and u are gonna be moody. when u are all of the above and u get admin and drama be it from your family,your friends or your kids u are gonna feel like u are gonna snap! so get that sorted, get the mrs and parents behind u to support, then consider it.

DJ +1

Guys I cannot emphasise this anymore. This is quite a "selfish" sport and family support IS A MUST.

I competed in another sport at an elite level. Unfortunately I don't get paid millions but the time put in was no less than any other professional PAYING sport. Plus the risk of dying or being eaten is also a very real risk.

Although I had dreams of a Green Blazer I could not justify the time away from family as the sacrifice from them would be unfair.

Same in this game. Yuo don't want to spend a shitload of time and money and fk up your life in total.

You cant be eaten on a Golf course CycloTrpTyr

Oupa wrote: You cant be eaten on a Golf course CycloTrpTyr

:lol:

I said "paying" sport.

The only benefit from my sport is more quality Protein you can poke a stick at. Turns out being able to hold your breath for 5 minutes isn't just useful for... :evil:

I understand now that I know your goal is to get better and to compete! You said it yourself its not al about the gear,mainly diet! If thats in check you can incorporate another steroid if you want. Deca is good for muscle but I dont think it would be best as its detectable for 18months(If you get tested,dont know if the do at those type of competitions) If that is the route you choose to take than make sure you have an AI on hand for bloat and Caber for prolactin(If your prone).

Best of luck