ITS MY FIRST CYCLE

bms
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05 Mar 2014 22:24 #163176 by bms

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just wanna be fit, leave a healthy life style and not stress whether i will get my trouser size when i go shopping, thats why i put on the extra effort at the gym and eating healthy but my system doesn't really respond to all that hard work. so thats when i decided to try soomething else. i have tried phedra cut, phedra cut hardcore before but it just gave a heartburn.

i know they are not quick fixes and definitely not a sprint. just wanted to jump start my metabolism. cause even with the 6 small meals at first i gained weight instead of loosing and still i was hard on diet and exercise,

but thanks for the advice

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Oupa
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05 Mar 2014 22:26 #163177 by Oupa

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Pleasure. That's why we are here. Take it easy and let's review on Sunday.

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Nikit4
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05 Mar 2014 22:29 #163178 by Nikit4

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Great forum. Good job.

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bms
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05 Mar 2014 22:30 #163179 by bms

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thats a relief. from the first comments i was starting to see my coffin

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Pyroclasm
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05 Mar 2014 22:32 #163180 by Pyroclasm

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YOU DO NOT TAKE ANOTHER PILL! You are at serious risk of overdosing and we cannot tell how much damage has been done to an already weak heart! There is no tapering with clen nor yohimbine that is bull! I am gonna be hated for this but I don't care as long as it takes you out of danger! Taking even a small amount of clen + yoh could send you into over the edge. You need to understand that Clen and Yohimbine together are very effective, but super dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. Why? Should the clen be too much for the body to handle, the Yohimbine takes away the body's ability to effectively block the Clen.

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Pyroclasm
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05 Mar 2014 22:34 - 05 Mar 2014 22:36 #163182 by Pyroclasm

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It's like being in a car with the throttle jammed at full blast and the Yohimbine takes away the car's ability to brake properly.

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bms
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05 Mar 2014 22:43 #163184 by bms

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so you suggest i stop immediately?

guys i understand i was doing something wrong, i've heard that. at least help a brother out now. i know i did this to myself but lets drop the guns i just help

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JacobRudolf
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05 Mar 2014 22:50 #163187 by JacobRudolf

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A lot of members are helping,they are just explaining how dangerous this stuff is to educate you rather than just tell you to drop it and you dont even know why.I agree with pyro to drop it immediately

Veni Vidi Vici

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Nikit4
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05 Mar 2014 22:54 #163188 by Nikit4

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I agree with tapering down like the old man and muscleaddict suggested

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Pyroclasm
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05 Mar 2014 22:57 #163190 by Pyroclasm

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YOU CANNOT TAKE TWO PILLS OF CLEN AND YOH TOMORROW ARE YOU NUTS??! You stop the pills immediately. There is a slight chance that you might crash but you feeling crap for a couple of days far outweighs risking permanent damage to your heart or maybe even heart failure.

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bms
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05 Mar 2014 23:06 #163192 by bms

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ok i will stop. then what next Pyroclasm?

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Oupa
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05 Mar 2014 23:10 #163193 by Oupa

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He will not be taking 2 tablets tomorrow PYRO FFS !! READ WHAT I SAID ~!

He will drop - Yohimbine 5.4mg, Clenbuterol 37.5mcg, Liothyronine Sodium 25mcg (Tablet)

Then

He will drop the 0.5ml Icyplex wich is 2.7mg yoh and 22.7mcg clen

That will leave him on one tablet which is 40mcg split between Saturday and Sunday (20mcg per day)

Then report back and lets take it from there !

@ BMS

Go have a good nights rest, you would have had big shit by now if something went wrong. So take it easy !

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Pyroclasm
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05 Mar 2014 23:14 #163194 by Pyroclasm

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Tomorrow we work on your diet and training to give you a head start. Then you do this properly by putting in the effort required to educate yourself about diet and training and chemicals.

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Muscleaddict
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05 Mar 2014 23:18 #163195 by Muscleaddict

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Another life saved by anabolicsteroids.co.za :lol: .

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Pyroclasm
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05 Mar 2014 23:33 #163197 by Pyroclasm

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Oupa wrote: He will not be taking 2 tablets tomorrow PYRO FFS !! READ WHAT I SAID ~

I read it fine. Tomorrow you want him to take two sources of clen and one source of Yohimbine. Whether he takes it in tablet form or liquid form or even in gel form doesn't make the slightest difference. The problem here is suggesting he stay on Clen for another three days, tomorrow you want him to take in the region of 80mcg which is still a damn high dosage for someone in their first couple of days on clen, with some yohimbine too. You are risking permanent damage or worse to spare a couple of days of feeling bad. If it were me it wouldn't even be a choice.

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Oupa
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05 Mar 2014 23:39 #163199 by Oupa

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Muscleaddict wrote: Another life saved by anabolicsteroids.co.za :lol: .

Good Lord this is NOT going to be easy !

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Liftmeister
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06 Mar 2014 07:31 #163210 by Liftmeister

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bms wrote: just wanna be fit, leave a healthy life style and not stress whether i will get my trouser size when i go shopping, thats why i put on the extra effort at the gym and eating healthy but my system doesn't really respond to all that hard work. so thats when i decided to try soomething else. i have tried phedra cut, phedra cut hardcore before but it just gave a heartburn.

i know they are not quick fixes and definitely not a sprint. just wanted to jump start my metabolism. cause even with the 6 small meals at first i gained weight instead of loosing and still i was hard on diet and exercise,

but thanks for the advice

Unless you have a medical issue with your thyroid,insulin, fat regulating hormones then the reason you gained weight and weren't losing is coz u were not in a calorie deficit or maybe not training correctly,or even as per your diet too little fat. Remember fats burn fat and is crucial in a fat loss diet
You need to burn 7000 calories a week in order to lose 1kg of fat, so in essence that's about 1000cals a day and the most used way to do it is to be in let's say a 500cal deficit and training+ cardio
BUT your macro split needs to be correct IMO to make sure you not losing much muscle in the process
Even so at a deficit you must lose weight even if muscle is involved

Calculate the nutritional value of EVERYTHING that goes in your mouth. Also calculate what your maintenance calories are then minus 500 and you should be on your way WITHOUT the use of chemicals and well of course proper training+ cardio

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Nikit4
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06 Mar 2014 09:31 #163228 by Nikit4

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Best supporting actor in a drama.

And the Grammy for best performance as a supporing actor goes too .......................... Piroclasm xxxxxx

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Oupa
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06 Mar 2014 09:37 #163230 by Oupa

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My Lady.
Thank you for the humour, but the matter has been resolved out of court.

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Nikit4
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06 Mar 2014 11:50 #163245 by Nikit4

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I guess the judgement was -1 karma for humour?

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CHAPEL
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06 Mar 2014 11:55 #163246 by CHAPEL

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haha I will put you back up. People don't know how to use the karma button properly.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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Empire
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06 Mar 2014 15:05 #163263 by Empire

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Lucky it's axio clen, there last couple batches have been big duds so i dont think it's gonna really be a case of anyone saving lives etc...

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admin
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06 Mar 2014 15:15 #163266 by admin

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Just for the record. Due to Clen's long half-life you are better off in the case of over-dose to stop taking it immediately and not to taper down first, so Pyro's advice were correct.

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Oupa
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07 Mar 2014 21:23 #163376 by Oupa

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Apologies if i was being a dewz there Pyro, not my intention. My response was given based on personal xp.

I have assisted male and females that were given the wrong advice with very similar cycles (in real life). In those cases, the advice given was by myself was successful.

Anyway, cheers !

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Pyroclasm
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07 Mar 2014 22:17 - 07 Mar 2014 22:33 #163379 by Pyroclasm

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Takes two large ones Oupa! Dankie my Tjom.

@Nikita: The next time I would prefer to receive an Oscar. That way I can tell everyone I have more Oscars than Leonardo diCaprio.

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