Supertest , Tren E , Dbol, Wini

Hello Guys,

I need some advice with my cycle before i get into it..
I got myself SuperTest (PGW), Tren E (DharmaChem) Dbol (Blue hearts) and Wini (nomad)
i also have clomid 15 tabz (LuqiudPharma)and also Tamoxifen 100 tabz..i should be getting proviron this week.
could you guys please help me through this cycle especially with the PCT..how should i take the tamxifen and clomid and proviron? with the cycle or after? and how long after should i start?and also at what dose?

my plan is to take the test and tren once a week for ten weeks..and for the first 5 weeks dbol 2 a day and then last 5 weeks wini then PCT???

Hi and welcome. We will assist you, but can i ask you one question?

yes please ask?

Dude on a serious note if you have no idea how a pct works then you shouldn't be doing a cycle. That is the most important part of your entire cycle. Read this www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/info...9-post-cycle-therapy and then come back again and ask your questions.

Do you just jump into a swimming pool before learning to swim? Do you buy a car without knowing every spec and detail? Thought not...do your homework first and don't believe your buddy in the gym!!!

Another question, is this your first cycle?

Sorry oupa, if I jumped in the deep end before you did lol

taitai wrote: yes please ask?

How do you guys do it ? Buying so many compounds and shit and have no idea how it works ? The compounds you have is not for beginners and a real stupid idea to use.

Do you buy from what a bro tells you, and then brows the internet to confirm dosages ?

Like i said, this is not a personal attack on you, i just want to know wtf !

David.biohazard wrote: Sorry oupa, if I jumped in the deep end before you did lol

You are welcome to post on anything bud. No need to apologize

ok...sorry maybe i should have stated in the beginning..this is not my first cycle i started about 2 years ago (obviously hearing from my "bros" in the gym) i tried dbol did not know anythng about PCT or what testosterone is.. then i tried sust deca and dbol and took clomid for pct...had good results..took a break then went to supertest and dbol and took clomid for PCT after 54 days..i though this year would do a different cycle one that would get me abit more ripped with size?? then came across those compounds and read about all the PCT available and got confused becuase some take it with their cycle and some after..i know proviron is taken with the cycle to also free up testosterone for better gains..maybe im just wrong with the whole thing??..i dont know? thats why i decided to post here and not ask anyone else about this before i do something wrong?

taitai wrote: ok...sorry maybe i should have stated in the beginning..this is not my first cycle i started about 2 years ago (obviously hearing from my "bros" in the gym) i tried dbol did not know anythng about PCT or what testosterone is.. then i tried sust deca and dbol and took clomid for pct...had good results..took a break then went to supertest and dbol and took clomid for PCT after 54 days..i though this year would do a different cycle one that would get me abit more ripped with size?? then came across those compounds and read about all the PCT available and got confused becuase some take it with their cycle and some after..i know proviron is taken with the cycle to also free up testosterone for better gains..maybe im just wrong with the whole thing??..i dont know? thats why i decided to post here and not ask anyone else about this before i do something wrong?

shot bro, thx for the honesty..

Whats your current stats ? age/weight/height/training xp/diet/cycle goals ?

taitai wrote: ok...sorry maybe i should have stated in the beginning..this is not my first cycle i started about 2 years ago (obviously hearing from my "bros" in the gym) i tried dbol did not know anythng about PCT or what testosterone is.. then i tried sust deca and dbol and took clomid for pct...had good results..took a break then went to supertest and dbol and took clomid for PCT after 54 days..i though this year would do a different cycle one that would get me abit more ripped with size?? then came across those compounds and read about all the PCT available and got confused becuase some take it with their cycle and some after..i know proviron is taken with the cycle to also free up testosterone for better gains..maybe im just wrong with the whole thing??..i dont know? thats why i decided to post here and not ask anyone else about this before i do something wrong?

WOW, WOW, WOW. Good thing you've found this website. Knowledge is power and ultimately what will save your gains. I would read all the articles in the articles section before starting your next cycle. Then once your knowledge is slightly broader than what it is now, post up a log on your cycle. Ask as many questions as you want but don't expect to be spoon fed all the info, you need to do your research and if there is something you don't understand while doing it, shoot away. Anyway bro all the best, let us know how your education is going.

Age - 24
weight - 78 kg
height - 1,74 m
training xp - iv been training for 4 years, played football for high school was an athlete 1st prize 100m 200m relay (dunno if that's necessary ) gym xp- iv done almost all types of training switching between different routines..i am currently doing strength training going as heavy as i can..
diet- i have a whey protein (nutritech) eat alot of chicken and meat..i try stay away from foods tht are high in carbs..Not the perfect diet but i try to make the best of what i get
cycle goals - from my last cycle i gained quite a bit of stubborn fat (lower belly and love handles) also my bum is bigger..i am looking to cut that off..but my main aim is vascularity and size thats why i thot the tren and wini would work

Eish buddy. Listen, I know you feeling really crappy at the moment because you haven't exactly been making the right choices or right decisions but all is not lost, you've found this website. We all here to help each other gain the knowledge that is necessary for us to get to where we want to. My one thing to you is if you can afford to buy juice, you can afford to eat properly. That is the first place you need to start. Put the juice on hold for the moment, get an eating plan that will suite your daily macros. Post up you eating for a day or two, what exactly you're eating at every meal. We can then guide you as to how you should be structuring your meals. Once you've got the eating right and a better understanding of juice and the correct requirements for a pct then by all means hit the juice. We want to help bro!!