second cycle advice

sup boys

I need some advice on my second cycle....I'm going to do 12 weeks test e at 500mg/week and proviron 40mg for 12 weeks.....my question is my with regards to my kickstart and my bridge through to pct.I want to bulk up and lean out towards the end.I'm looking for a oral thats mild on the liver....would primo ace be decent for a kickstart or should I just go with Tbol?and should I use anavar or winstrol towards the end??also can I use aromasin for my cycle support as arimidex I crazy expensive....thanx in advance

cheers
G-man

Go with a Tbol kickstart. Oral primo is not worth the money for men.

Anavar or winstrol comes down to personal preference. Yes, winstrol is hard on the joints but not everyone get's it bad, and winstrol's effects are visible faster. If you've tried one before then give the other one a shot.

You can use aromasin as your on cycle AI. What brand are you using?

I just want something that's not to hard on the liver....well I'm considering using PGW/LP but I'm a bit nervous ,coz I feel it might just be a big hype(I hope I don't get slammed for saying that)....or going with alpha pharma....any advice on decent brands?

G-man wrote: I just want something that's not to hard on the liver....well I'm considering using PGW/LP but I'm a bit nervous ,coz I feel it might just be a big hype(I hope I don't get slammed for saying that)....or going with alpha pharma....any advice on decent brands?

I have only heard good things about alpha pharma but never used it
I have got great/excellent results from PGW and LP so i will stick with it, the proof is in the pudding.
Prices are also good. Please dont ask about prices i am just saying they are good.
In two cycles i gained 22kg from PGW, obviously i lost water after that but that is just to give you an indication.

does PGW have a return policy if the gear doesn't work??lol....so fillet can I ask you about the two cycles that u did....

Sure bud

Golden cycle was Test cyp @ 500mg pw, kickstart dbol, bridge anavar

2nd cycle was Test cyp 12 weeks at 500mg pw, NPP 10 weeks at 450mg pw, kick start dbol and bridge winnies.

G-man wrote: does PGW have a return policy if the gear doesn't work??lol....so fillet can I ask you about the two cycles that u did....

If they do then noone has ever used it.

G-man wrote: does PGW have a return policy if the gear doesn't work??lol....so fillet can I ask you about the two cycles that u did....

haha, like those money back guarantees you hear about when you buy those fat vibrators from Homemark's TV commercials... all you do is sit back, relax and switch on for 10 minutes a session... nothing could be easier.

If PGW did have a return policy, do you imagine how many people will take chances by making false claims? Luckily we have this forum where users of PGW's products can give you honest feedback.

haha funny admin:)I was just kidding tho....I kinda screwed up my golden cycle cos I only used 250mg test/week and half of the amps were underdosed so now I'm looking to
make my 2nd cycle 'the one'....that's why I just want some solid gear.can I ask the PGW testen 300....how can I use it so I just get 500mg/week split in to two doses...or should I do the maths myself?lol

G-man wrote: haha funny admin:)I was just kidding tho....I kinda screwed up my golden cycle cos I only used 250mg test/week and half of the amps were underdosed so now I'm looking to
make my 2nd cycle 'the one'....that's why I just want some solid gear.can I ask the PGW testen 300....how can I use it so I just get 500mg/week split in to two doses...or should I do the maths myself?lol

I personally will go for the Testocyp 250 from PGW for two reasons.
1: To get 500mg you just inject two ml's.
2: The viscosity of the oil used for Testen is quite thick and may cause injection discomfort for a few days after injecting.

However to answer your question on how to get 500mg of Testen. 1.66ml will give you 500mg.

guys thanx for your help once again....filet thanx for posting your cycle history and admin thanx for the maths:)so my cycle thus far is gonna look lime this:
week1-12 test cyp at 500mg/week.proviron 40mg/day.kickstart with Tbol 40mg/ day for 4weeks and bridge with var 40mgs/day week 10-14.any changes I should make?last question test cyp does it take longer then enan to kick in?

Var at 40mg/day is a very low dose and 4 weeks is a bit on the short side. Don't expect too much. You'd probably see better results with winny at 30mg. Rather up the dose and run it a week or 2 longer since you've been saying you want the most out of this cycle.

thanx muscleaddict...maybe I should just run the winny then as u suggested at 30mg/day....I'm gonna be paying 'through my teeth' if I'm gonna be running var at that dose and for that length of time.would my liver handle all of this?lol....can anybody inform me with regards to the test cyp if it takes longer for it to kick in then test enan

Cyp & En takes roughly the same time. I agree with MA that 30mg winny will be more effective than 40mg var for your bridge period.

As for your liver, use liver sups throughout your cycle and don't consume alcohol during this time.

thanx Oupa:)alcohol is overrated anyway...training hard and eating smart is the good life....cheers

You can use aromasin as your on cycle AI. [/quote]
Does he need Aromasin on that cycle,i heard proviron also works well as an anti estrogen?

Bobcat wrote: Does he need Aromasin on that cycle,i heard proviron also works well as an anti estrogen?

Proviron might have anti-estrogenic properties, but to say it works well as one is not true.

Bobcat wrote: You can use aromasin as your on cycle AI.

Does he need Aromasin on that cycle,i heard proviron also works well as an anti estrogen?[/quote]

I've heard that exact line before from a guy rocking a pair of Zulu maiden tities ready for the read dance.