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14 May 2014 09:20 #168076 by Nate40
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Thumper did you do some before pics so we can track your progress? Its the best way to judge vascularity, bodyfat, etc.

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14 May 2014 09:22 #168077 by Thumper
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Haha. Feeling good. Very motivated. Body is a bit eina but otherwise no worries...just need to get hold of my hcg now and then read your poat over over to try figure out how to use the pregnyl...

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14 May 2014 09:30 #168080 by Nate40
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Cool bro. Good luck.

The pregnyl has helped me a lot.
I totally flipped out over the HCG injections, but once I got the vial and reconstituted it, the injection in the stomach with the insulin syringe was painless dude.
And by painless I mean you really don't feel it at all.

Let me know if you need any help with the process.

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20 May 2014 11:35 #168596 by Thumper
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Hey guys. So its been a week on cycle and already put on just over a kg while keeping diet in check...so pretty pleased so far no visible results yet really...anyways,quick questions. So i start hcg at start of week 4?how much each week and also for bridge,how much anavar will i need?and bridge is start of last week of cycle rite? Thanks

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20 May 2014 12:32 #168606 by mike123
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HCG 250 by twice a week = 20 on insuline syringe ..I normally count back from start of PCT 5 weeks thats were u start..the bridge starts after the last shot of test ...check the articles sect for how long u wait on supertest Anavar at least 6 weeks at 60mg but then u have to figure that into the bridge IE if your bridge is 36 days and Anavar is 42 days then start PCT on the 43/44 day ..work back 5 weeks from there for the start of hcg ..
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20 May 2014 13:48 #168619 by Thumper
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Thanks mike but now im pretty confused..my supplier says the pregnyl comes with 30 tabs. Im lost now. My cycle is 12weeks...so when do i start the pregnyl?and how much should i order. Brain wont function today...

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20 May 2014 13:52 #168620 by Muscleaddict
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Thumper wrote: Thanks mike but now im pretty confused..my supplier says the pregnyl comes with 30 tabs. Im lost now. My cycle is 12weeks...so when do i start the pregnyl?and how much should i order. Brain wont function today...


Pregnyl comes in an ampule in a freeze fried powder as it is injectable, not in tabs. Your supplier is confused bud.
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20 May 2014 14:08 #168622 by Thumper
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How many ampules would i need from week 4 till end of bridge? I might be the one confused with what he said...but i need to order as it will take a week and a half to get here

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20 May 2014 14:21 - 20 May 2014 14:22 #168624 by Rhino
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Beware of your supplier, He sounds like half the Ass Clowns out there pushing gear. The one Cock I met pushed Proviron was an AI (hence all the Man boobs I see at the gym :lol:

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20 May 2014 14:32 #168627 by Thumper
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Just spoke to him. I was confused. He said its amps but will explain everything later when i see him..so can someone pls tell me how much i would need. How many shots do u get from 1 amp?

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20 May 2014 14:50 #168628 by mike123
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If u start from week 4 u will need 2 sets = 1 vial containing a tablet and 1 ampule containing at least 2ml of sterile water = 1 set ....IMO u only need 1 set as u are not doing a hectic cycle 1 set will give u 10 shots = 5 weeks = bridge period
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20 May 2014 15:09 #168630 by Muscleaddict
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Yea you could just use during your bridge since it's not a hectic cycle but pregnyl is cheap and besides keeping your balls working it will put more testosterone in your system, around the equivalent of 100mg Test E per week.

HCG will slowly start to degrade once it's reconstituted and after around 5 weeks in the average fridge you should throw out what is left and use a fresh amp. Unless you preload syringes and freeze them. Then you can keep them for months, but only thaw them once. Do not refreeze or you'll damage the peptide.

So one or 2 amps of HCG depending on the above.
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20 May 2014 16:59 #168634 by Nate40
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Hey Thumper,

I know the HCG thing is confusing. It was for me too trust me.

The important things to remember:
[1] Reconstitute one container at a time because it degrades.
[2] Store in the fridge and try not shake or bump it too much
[3] Go to dischem and get insulin syringes
[4] Remember to clean the area on your stomach properly
[5] Inject at 250IU's twice a week. This is 5 units on the insulin syringe
[6] Take from Week 4 of cycle and through bridge right up until PCT start
[7] Don't not take the HCG bro, or your balls will disappear.

Hope this helps.

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20 May 2014 18:35 - 20 May 2014 18:36 #168655 by Oupa
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Nate40 wrote: Hey Thumper,

The important things to remember:

[5] Inject at 250IU's twice a week. This is 5 units on the insulin syringe. The units depend on how many ml sabax water you use to reconstitute the HCG with.


Important
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21 May 2014 07:40 #168680 by mike123
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Will your system use the 100mg MA while on cycle ? my understanding is u use to stop your nuts from shrinking ...Also why not say last 2 weeks of bridge then clomid and Hcg again with Nolva ?

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21 May 2014 11:56 #168718 by Thumper
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Hey guys thanks for all the feedback. Still confused...firstly,how much water do i reconstitute into the vile of pregnyl for the correct 2 shots a week? So i start hcg in week 4 until the end of my bridge?is my bridge the whole 36 days i would have waited before pct? And then do i wait a certain amount of time before pct or do i start pct rite after bridge? I take it that i no longer need the hcg during my pct 3 then? Can someone possibly give me a step by step of when to start what? My cycle is 12 weeks and wait b4 pct would have been 36 days without a bridge. Sorry for all the questions guys.dnt want to make any mistakes

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21 May 2014 12:11 #168720 by mike123
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1 vial is 5 weeks so 2 = 10 weeks take the end of the 36 days and work backwards 10 weeks thats when u start ...Pct starts after the 36 th day ...37th day u start clomid ...
2ml and a dash...2 insuline syringes... of water mix in the vial slowly it is vacumed so the water will try to shoot in try controlling it ..then draw 0.20 or number 20 on the syringe and inject slowly into the stomache about a inch from the navel ...twice a week

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21 May 2014 13:36 #168736 by Nate40
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Hey Thumper,

Have a read through my thread "Life begins at 40!". I got horribly confused with the pregnyl thing.
It is explained very nicely on there by a few of the pros on here. Especially the part regarding working out what the correct dosage is to inject.

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21 May 2014 13:38 #168739 by Nate40
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Thumper,

I found that explanation from CycloTrpTyr for you:

CycloTrpTyr wrote:

Nate, I think you've worked yourself up into a tizz here. Work through it with me.

1 vial of Pregnyl contains 5000 International Units (IU) of HCG.

You add 1ml of water to enable the stuff to be injected.

Therefore you have 5000IU of HCG per 1ml of water.

Are you still with me.

if there is 5000IU/1ml, then it follows that
there is: 2500IU/0.5ml (divide both sides by 2)
1000IU/0.2ml (divide both sides by 5)
500IU/0.1ml (divide both sides by 10)

Does this make sense? If you have 5000IU per ml then you also have 500IU per 0.1ml
You want 250IU twice a week which is 500IU per week.

Therefore you want to inject 0.1ml per week in total. (500IU per 0.1ml)

Now forget units.

You split this up in two as you inject twice per week. Thus you have 0.1ml divided by 2 which gives you 0.05ml

Therefore you have to inject 0.05ml twice a week.

On an insulin syringe the volume (ml is designated as units. i.e. 1 Unit = 0.01ml. 10 Units = 0.1ml etc)

Therefore 0.05ml = 5 Units.

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21 May 2014 13:51 #168745 by Thumper
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That makes sense haha. Thanks nate!!!!!and thanks mike. I have worked out that i will be injecting hcg 28 times...(14 weeks if i keep taking through my bridge.)does that sound rite?so will 2 viles be enough.?dont think it will?
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21 May 2014 13:52 #168746 by Nate40
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Pleasure dude,

HCG is cheap so i bought a few just so I don't run out. Rather safe then run out and have to wait for suppliers.

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21 May 2014 13:56 #168748 by Oupa
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If you start at week 4 and your cycle totals 12 weeks, 2 vials will do @ 250ui twice a week
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21 May 2014 14:31 - 21 May 2014 14:39 #168759 by mike123
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Just to clear up what I said before....Like it was explained to Nate but use 2 ml of water then it is 0.1 or ten units = 250iu
20 units = 500iu ....0.05 or half a unit is a very small amount...but I surpose it will work as well...I work out he starts at week 7/ 8 Oups of sit ek die pot miss...



naa actually this works out to 20 weeks plenty of time ...start at week 4 hahaha
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22 May 2014 15:33 #168936 by Thumper
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hallo my fellow gym bunnies.
what will my dosage be for my anavar bridge?my wait to pct is 36 days,so i will be on var for 43 days. Also, because I will be on HCG from week 4 to end of bridge, will I still need to do PCT 3 but without the HCG or which one will do the job..?
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22 May 2014 15:52 #168938 by Muscleaddict
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60mg var per day. No need for HCG in PCT if you use it during your cycle and bridge.
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