My first cycle and your opinions

Howsit guys
I am currently thinking of taking my first cycle. I have been gyming and eating correctly for 4 years now. I am 18 years old and 95kgs. I am about 175cm's. My personal records are as follows:
Bench press: 150 x 3
Squat: 200 x 3
Deadlift: 200 x 3
DB shoulder press: 3 sets of 50kgs for 6
I am looking to gain a few kgs of lean muscle and strength but nothing too extreme yet. I want it to look "natural".
I have used products such as zma's, tribulus and a HMT product called HOT. HOT worked the best out of those three and I'm now looking to take Anavar by liquid pharma at a dosage of between 20-40mgs a day. Should I take proviron with it even if I dont want insane gains? I want to protect my body as much as possible. I plan to run milk thistle for the entire cycle and 4 weeks after it. I really respect the opinions of experienced users and experienced lifters. Would like to hear your views and suggestions on this please. Thank you.

I can tell you now that you are too young to be using steroids and no accredited LP supplier will sell to you due to your age.

Dont do it!!

Bro at 18 and 95kg you are already a big dude. Push your genetic potential to the limit first bro.

Doing juice now can only harm your body. Trust me. Your endocrine system and your libido and your mood will disintegrate. You don't want to sacrifice any of that for a few extra kg's of muscle. Muscle it seems you could add naturally anyway.

Nate

Hi Bud,

You're going to pick up a lot of slack forum because of your age.
You should wait a couple years before you do start as your natural test levels
are high enough as it is at the moment and you can take advantage of that and only dabble with
with this stuff when that slows down after 25. Roids are not miracle workers though, and on anavar alone you're not going to see those "insane gains" you mentioned.

If you ignore the advise and are hell bent on doing the Var, then daily dose should be between 40mg - 80mg and run it at least for 8 - 12 weeks.

Milk Thistle 2 weeks before start of cycle, while on cycle use Essentiale as Milk Thistle will hinder your gains. Then take Milk thistle after cycle and during your post cycle again.

That being said, I still don't think it is wise for you start at your age.

Good luck, think smart.

I personally think as older guys advice like dosages etc shouldn't be given out in a hurry. I know we don't want to see people get hurt but lately we have been getting a large number of youth enquiring on the forum about AAS.
We should try our utmost best to convince them otherwise.

Teen lifter bud if you eating correct you won't and don't need gear esp with the weights you are pushing at your age.
Just keep disciplined and train hard like you have been and you will see amazing results.
Get gear off the mind.

I hear you T-Style,

I almost cancelled my post twice, but then decided to give out the info for the following reasons.

1) If your mind is set, no matter what anyone says...he won't change it.
2) At least he had the foresight to ask for advice, and not go in blindly.
3) All the info I gave out can be easily found on the website.

I don't know what it is like in the rest of the country but here in PTA, guys are starting gear
from the age of 16. It's scary, I went to gym early at about 14:00 a month or so back and I counted
11 kids who were definitely juicing all under the age of 20.

Unfortunately I don't see this problem going away and by no means do I support the idea of doing gear at such a young age. But if the youth are going to do it...at least those "in the know" can offer advice on how to do it properly but most importantly safely.

This is a 50/50 T style / Heritage...give advice so he doesnt F/up or ignore and he does F/up.....
Anavar 40 to 60mg for 6 to 8 weeks add as much prov as u like BUT u need to read and take seriously what the guys have told u...u are still young my pal u dont need steriods u can gain naturally...apart from your body still needing to mature properly u could end up with a dick that wont work properly as well as not being furtile when u want children ...

Great advice from the guys on here bro.
The key is you are young and your natural testosterone is through the roof. Enjoy that and you will gain big time anyway.

Juicing now is not worth the risk of the consequences to your growing system. And as an older guy, I plead with you to listen to Mike on this regarding a limp dick dude and future relationships. No amount of muscle will make up for that if it happens.

Let us know what you decide anyway.

Nate

Thanks guys for all the replies, I have decided to listen to you guys and NOT take gear. And yes there a lot of guys that are around my age that havent been training for half as long as I have and because of what they take they are catching up to looks and strength wise. However! these people cant claim natural like I am. Gyming is probably one of the most competitive sports around (even if you don't actually compete you always want to look better and you rarely look good enough for yourself)
really appreciate the comments and will continue to train and eat correctly.

What do you guys recommend with regards to ZMA, tribulus and products such as HOT? thanks.

Notanotherteen BIG UP buddy.
I solute you.
Well done on making the right choice.

Good on you bud! Smart choice!

You have the right attitude. ZMA only works if you have a Zinc or Magnesium deficiency. If you look at all the famous studies where they claim Tribulis boosts testosterone, all of them were performed on men with low testosterone levels. There have been more than one conclusive study on men with normal testosterone levels and they note no change in test levels. If you are really clever you will focus on getting your diet right. That is where the magic happens!

Big ups bro.

Remember this: This is the kinda decision that will make you a legend.
And at 30 when you decide to juice a bit, then you will only improve a magnificent natural physique based on your awesome genetics. Respect dude.

Have some karma. +1

Nate

Thanks guys, have any of you guys heard of HOT by HMT? and have you tried it or heard of people who have?