Testosterone Enanthate Cycle

Hi,

Looking at running the following cycle for some lean mass, nothing major

Any suggestions would be appreciated

Week 1 - 10

Testen 300 600mg/week

Day 1 - 25

Dianabol 10 40mg/day

Day 46 - 70

Oral Winstrol 10 40mg/day

Will PCT 1 be alright for the following cycle after 30 days?

PCT 1 will not suffice, you will require HCG.

So I must use No 2 PCT on the cycle?

Any advise on the cycle?

Good or bad?

Also, what is the difference between Test Enanthate and Test Cypionate?

Was looking at the following cycle but just add some Oral Winstrol at the end

www.anabolicsteriods.co.za/articles/sample-cycles/48-cycle-1

Rather go with cyp if this is your first cycle. Test E can really hurt if your not use to pinning

Khaos wrote: Any advise on the cycle?

Good or bad?

Good or bad cycles are dependent on your nutrition, not compounds... but you knew that already hey

Yes, the cycle looks good, follow Rhino's advice and rather use cyp. As for PCT, HCG is recommended in cycle from roughly week 4 onwards up to PCT.

Remember AI's for possible gyno symptoms and also your liver & joint support sups.

Add some pregnyl

Hi Oupa What do u suggest for a cyclist age 50 looking for strength and a bit of cardio
Your help is greatly appreciated

Hi James,

Oupa do you think James might get benefit out of anavar with proviron?

Nate

How is the Test Enanthate compared to the Super Test 320 when pinning?

How is Sus compared to Test Enanthate and Test Cypionate?

Would it be better running Sustanon 250 / Sustaplex 325 with a Dianabol kickstarter and then Oral Winstrol on my bridge?

Which one is beter between the two? Sustanon 250 or Sustaplex 325?

How does Super Test 320 compare to Sustanon and Sustaplex?

Also, with what Test will I get lean muscle gains and not to much bulk?

Incase your wondering why no one is bothering to answer your questions it because you haven't bothered to read the article section and you haven't listened to what's been advised above!
All blends are going to hurt you if it's your first cycle so yet again I'd choose test cyp but hey I think you should use Supertest.
And then Test is test they will all do the same thing you'll only bloat if your diet is up to shit.

I am by no means an expert ...the only advice I can give u,is read read read!!Educate yourself so u know what u putting into your body and u understand the effects...have a more simplistic approach..test cyp is a great compound and it's a good place to start,but at the end it's your diet and training that does the magic.listen to the guys here,they give phenomenal advice:)

Thanks for all the advice!

Will run the following cycle and just add some Oral Winstrol at 50mg a day for the 29 days bridge

www.anabolicsteriods.co.za/articles/sample-cycles/48-cycle-1

Will also drink Milk Thistle pills and some joint support pill

I'm currently drinking Salusa 45 which is a multivitamin and it also comes with pills containing Fish Oil and Clucosamine for joints etc. Will this be enough for joint support or do I need something else as well?

www.gracepharm.co.za/salusa-45

I know it's for 45 year olds and higher but they actually very good.

I also have some Arimidex, I only use this should I get bad side effects or is it better to use it once or twice a week even if there is no sides?

Also in connection with the HCG, can I use it when I start PCT like in cycle or must I use it 4 weeks into cycle as per Oupa?

The AI is if u get gyno symptoms ....HCG 4weeks in ...bridge only or in PCT ...A lot of us have found doing at least in the bridge instead of Pct works better ...smoother transition

Use it from four weeks into cycle or your balls will be peanuts dude.

Nate

Nate40 wrote: Use it from four weeks into cycle or your balls will be peanuts dude.

Nate

Same as in PCT every 2nd day 500iu until the 5000iu is finish?

To be honest, I have never used HCG so don't have a clue how to use it?

Been reading a bit about it and see you get powder that you have to mix with water that you get with it and then put it in a fridge and after mixing you must use it before 4 weeks

Hey Bro,

Read the message from Cyclo that I just posted on Thumper's thread. It explains it well.
Ideally you take 250IU's of HCG twice a week. Ideally from 4th week of cycle right up until the end of your bridge before PCT starts.

Nate

Khaos wrote:
Been reading a bit about it and see you get powder that you have to mix with water that you get with it and then put it in a fridge and after mixing you must use it before 4 weeks

You have to do a shit load of reading before you use HCG. You will probably damage the hormone with your first vial because you didn't know about the vacuumed unit. And then what usually happens is you inject pure water and complain that its a fake product that you bought.

Then you have issues recovering because your balls are not functional anymore and need medical professionals to sort you out.

... in a nutshell, do some more reading.

Thanks Oupa,

Yes and read Oupa's piece on my thread about mixing properly due to the vacuum. I totally screwed that up the first time.

Nate

Hi Oupa,

Don't mean to Hijack the thread. Just want to make sure I also don't f-up when using HCG.
I'm planning on taking 250ui twice a week from week 4 up until start of PCT.

If I understand everything correctly when using my 5000ui of HGC.

1)Take a syringe and withdraw 1ml of the water from Amp supplied
2)Inject the 1ml water into the powdered bottle
3)Swirl gently and mix the two until the powder dissolves

- My 1ml mixed solution now has 5000ui HGC

4)Therefore each 250ui shot should be 0.05ml or 5 units on an insulin needle
5)When withdrawing HGC from vial first inject vial with 0.05ml/5units of air
6)Then withdraw 0.05ml/5units and inject SQ into stomach area 1 inch from navel
7)For each time I withdraw from the vial I first inject 0.05ml/5units of air
8)Mixed HGC solution can last up to 4 weeks, but as per Muscle addict you can preload your insulin needles and freeze them and then just let one thaw on the day you need to inject.

Am I good to go?

There is a lot of confusion and questions regarding HCG on the forum at the moment. Would it not be possible for yourself,Pyro, MA or Admin to make a sticky regarding the HGC similar to Pyros post "Everthing you need to know about Clen".

Thanks Heritage

No No.

The HCG vial is vacuumed, you have to withdraw air into the syringe and let the HCG vial SLOWLY suck in the air before you mix the hormone with water.

I always used a normal 3ml syringe and withdrew the air into it. Then i took the HCG vial(no water) and slowly inserted the needle into the vial. MAKE SURE YOU HOLD ONTO THE PLUNGER !!

The HCG vial will suck the air in very fast if you do not hold onto the plunger and the hormone will bounce around like a golfball on a 4x4 track. Let the vial balance itself out with air. You will feel when the air is balanced out because the plunger stops.

Then withdraw the water and slowly inject the water into the HCG vial. Hold the vial about 60 degrees and let the water slowly drip down the sides and not directly onto the hormone.

Swirl gently if there is a little white powder around the sides and also around the rubber area. Handle with care always and leave it in the fridge.

Sorted ?

I thank you Oupa cause I would have f'd that up!

You're a legend!