Stopping a Tren cycle after one pin, advice please

Howzit guys. 

I need some help. I'm so mad. A dude that I know was advised to take Tren A and Prop 100, as a cutting agent. The dude is 31 years old, 187cm, 103kg's and has a BF of 19%. And it's probably even higher. 

I have convinced him to stop the cycle and cut down his BF to at least 10-12% and then re access.

My question is: he has done one pin of each, the Tren A and the Prop 100. 1mg Tren and 1.5mg of the Prop. Could he cut this cycle now? And not run any PCT? What would be best in this situation? Maybe just to run some HCG? 

Thanks. Appreciate the help. 

Does he live a healthy lifestyle ?

Oupa wrote: Does he live a healthy lifestyle ?

Oupa, don't know the dude all that well. But from the little I do. I'd say no it's not consistently healthy, like you and I would be.

He also came off a cycle last year sometime and never did a PCT. And has been without a sex drive since Jan this year. Made me so mad! My hair was literally standing up!

He is not going to stop the cycle, i can guarantee you that.

He needs a super clean diet,cabaser,adex and hcg or he will have some fuckn nasty sides that makes big boys cry like babies.

You know the dosages, so advise him accordingly. Give advice once, if he doesnt follow it, let him be.

If you not sure about the dosages ask

Oupa wrote: He is not going to stop the cycle, i can guarantee you that.

He needs a super clean diet,cabaser,adex and hcg or he will have some fuckn nasty sides that makes big boys cry like babies.

You know the dosages, so advise him accordingly. Give advice once, if he doesnt follow it, let him be.

If you not sure about the dosages ask

Roger that. Thank you Oupa.

If he really goes through with stopping it, should he be oaky? I just need that option in case he really stops.

I convinced him to do a Clen / Yohimbine cycle. He was very keen and thankful. And I said I'd help with the diet and shit but he had to stop this cycle. I told him he's gonna have hardly any sex this year - and I really made him shit himself. So I think it worked.

There is to many gray areas for me to give you a solid and accurate answer...

I would advice a PCT2. And if you do his diet and shit then yes, he can do yoh/clen. The tren and prop cycle will be potent when his body fat is sub 12. So he can hold onto the gear and store it.

Thank you Oupa! I appreciate your time to reply.

Cool, the HCG should give his libido a massive boost. Him being 31, let him run 750ui a week during his pct. Split 750ui/3pins/ @ 250ui mon/wed/fri

Oupa wrote: Cool, the HCG should give his libido a massive boost. Him being 31, let him run 750ui a week during his pct. Split 750ui/3pins/ @ 250ui mon/wed/fri

Perfect! Thanks again Oupa! I know what I need to do.

It blows my mind, that after one pin of each..you need to do a post cycle.

Oupa is that because of the Tren?

Heritage wrote: It blows my mind, that after one pin of each..you need to do a post cycle.

Oupa is that because of the Tren?

Yeah my bru.. Tren shuts your goons down on a single shot, far as I understand. And so does Deca, just by the way.

RonTheSaveg wrote:

Heritage wrote: It blows my mind, that after one pin of each..you need to do a post cycle.

Oupa is that because of the Tren?

Yeah my bru.. Tren shuts your goons down on a single shot, far as I understand. And so does Deca, just by the way.

That right there is why the 19-nors scare the sh*t out me

Hi Oupa..

The dude has decided to stop the cycle. His last pin was on the 13th of July. How long should he wait before we run this PCT? And should he start the HCG right away or wait and start with PCT?

Also, do you not think he should run the prop 100 at 150mg EOD to start of PCT? I'm sure the dude is gonna crash bad until PCT if he doesn't?

Thanks Oupa.

Heritage wrote: That right there is why the 19-nors scare the sh*t out me

You my bru, are a wise and responsible man! You don't need to be afraid! But better to have your attitude.

Some of the guys I know make me cringe so bad bru! I wanna shake them so hard!

This is why I reckon Equipose is a better option then deca as I did for my first cycle.
Equi is not a 19-nors is it so I wouldn't have to run cabaser? Just arimidex and HCG on cycle?

RonTheSaveg wrote: Hi Oupa..

The dude has decided to stop the cycle. His last pin was on the 13th of July. How long should he wait before we run this PCT? And should he start the HCG right away or wait and start with PCT?

Also, do you not think he should run the prop 100 at 150mg EOD to start of PCT? I'm sure the dude is gonna crash bad until PCT if he doesn't?

Thanks Oupa.

How does he run a Ace ester and his last pin was more than a week ago. wtf :blink:

Anyway he has 2 options.

Option 1

If his last pin was 9 days ago, he can start his pct in 3 or 4 days. Follow PCT2

Option 2

He can run the prop EOD @ 100mg with a 500 calorie deficit diet for 10 weeks. High bodyfat more than doubles the chance of estrogen side effects. He MUST run a maintenance dose of 0.2mg adex EOD. The idea will not be to bulk , but to loose fat. I personally used and tested prop as a fatloss compound, and its works fantastic if used correctly.

So to sum up

Prop 10 weeks @ 100mg EOD (450mg pw)
Adex @ 0.2mg EOD (get liquid adex from LP)
HCG from week 4 500ui per week
Atleast a 500 calorie deficit diet to start off with.
Cardio 3 times a week

Oupa, you rock in a HUGE way man! Thank you for helping a brother out! This is solid advice! + 1! The dudes a pretty decent bloke and that's the only reason I wanna help him. Else I would have kicked it very far. :blink:

Oupa wrote: How does he run a Ace ester and his last pin was more than a week ago. wtf :blink:

Exactly Oupa! I shat all over this dude! They messing with their lives! Crazy shit!