G-man's second cycle/log

okey bro's here it goes.This is my second cycle and my first attempt at a log,so I'll try my best to give valuable feedback from my cycle.
Got my bloodwork done before my cycle and everything seems in good order.

My cycle history:12weeks of testoviron-gained about 9kgs and lost about 1kg.

Cycle started:
28 July 3014

Stats:
age:32
height:1.79m
weight:89kgs
bodyfat%:+/-14% mostly around my midsection.
lifting experience:4-5years

Goals:
Size and strength all the way.

Planned Cycle:
weeks 1-5 LP Tbol @ 40mgs/day
weeks 1-12 PGW Testocyp @ 500mg/week
weeks 10-16 LP anavar @ 60mg/day
weeks 16-17 clomid @ 100mg/day
weeks 17-21 Nolva @ 20mg/day
Hcg from week 5 until PCT
Aromasin on hand.

Training:
5days per week.Sets will be heavy and progressive,keeping my rep range between 6 and 12.

Diet:
my BMR I worked out to be 3100cals.
My current calorie intake is +/- 4000.

Notes:I might change my bridge to Test Prop or maybe something else ,anything except winstrol.

So I took my first pin on Monday.That gear is smooth smooth smooth.No PIP yet ,or signs of it to be noted.
My libido already feels up there or maybe it's just placebo.

Anyway I would always appreciate some feedback.Let me know what u fellas think.
Cheers
G

G-man, my bru. All the best with your cycle my man! Know you gonna be power on this one.. Looking forward to following your log bru.

Just one thing... What do you think about running test prop during your bridge with the Var? No test for 5 weeks, eish! :woohoo: Also in my view the var is gonna be awesome for power.. But unless your BF is 10% or even lower, you might be a lil disappointed, so all good bru, but just keep that in mind.

RE: The Libido >> it's placebo bru. But hey, ride it anyway! :silly: Cyp is a long ester, it's only gonna awaken the beast in you, in about four weeks, I recon.

Good luck my bru.
Ron

G-man wrote: okey bro's here it goes.This is my second cycle and my first attempt at a log,so I'll try my best to give valuable feedback from my cycle.
Got my bloodwork done before my cycle and everything seems in good order. Good boy

My cycle history:12weeks of testoviron-gained about 9kgs and lost about 1kg.

Cycle started:
28 July 3014

Stats:
age:32
height:1.79m
weight:89kgs
bodyfat%:+/-14% mostly around my midsection.
lifting experience:4-5years

Goals:
Size and strength all the way.

Planned Cycle:
weeks 1-5 LP Tbol @ 40mgs/day For size and srength Dbol or Anaps are good stuff
weeks 1-12 PGW Testocyp @ 500mg/week
weeks 10-16 LP anavar @ 60mg/day Waste of good money, use Prop as per Ron
weeks 16-17 clomid @ 100mg/day 16 to 18 Clomid at 50mg daily
weeks 17-21 Nolva @ 20mg/day From week 19
Hcg from week 5 until PCT
Aromasin on hand.Adex or letro would be better

Training:
5days per week.Sets will be heavy and progressive,keeping my rep range between 6 and 12.

Diet:
my BMR I worked out to be 3100cals.
My current calorie intake is +/- 4000.

Notes:I might change my bridge to Test Prop or maybe something else ,anything except winstrol.

So I took my first pin on Monday.That gear is smooth smooth smooth.No PIP yet ,or signs of it to be noted.
My libido already feels up there or maybe it's just placebo.

Anyway I would always appreciate some feedback.Let me know what u fellas think.
Cheers
G

Good luck and enjoy

Nothing wrong with using that aromasin in your pct, you dont have to take 19 nors to use aromasin in pct. Actually from the last cycle and this one aromasin is in there even if i use test and mast i will use aromasin.

Great post and good luck buddy

@Ron:O bud thanx for your continuous support bro.Yes I think I might just consider rather doing test prop,I'm not a big fan of orals it seems...I would've preferred not to do a oral kickstart at all ,but jeez waiting for the test to kick in is like waiting for those lucky lotto numbers.

As for the libido changes I think it might be the Tbol but who knows...nothing wrong with a bit of placebo...what the mind can conceive and believe,it can achieve;)
I must really give a big ups to PGW thus far...the gear is really smooth as I already mentioned...no PIP and no injection pain.

How's your cycle going my man...u doing the business?

@fillet:thanks for your knowledgeable feedback.I will run the PCT as you suggested and I'll ad the Aromasin.
The reason I'm using Tbol over Dbol(anaps is definitely not an option yet) is cause I didn't want all the water bloat...I want decent and maintainable gains,if that makes sense?
I also red up about Aromasin as an AI and heard very good things about it but I'll take the little bugger for a test drive myself and see how it does on the open road(that's a metaphor lol not me going crazy).
It's good that the forum buds are here to help each other out.
thanks again for the input.
How's your cycle going,brutha?I know your running the mother of all cycles at the moment hehe

G-man wrote: @Ron:O bud thanx for your continuous support bro.Yes I think I might just consider rather doing test prop,I'm not a big fan of orals it seems...I would've preferred not to do a oral kickstart at all ,but jeez waiting for the test to kick in is like waiting for those lucky lotto numbers.

It a pleasure G- man, my bru!

Your choice of Orals is solid! Nothing wrong hey. You have chosen two that are the least toxic on your liver. As long as you take your liver sups >> and I know you do! you'll be all good bru.
My thinking was that you add the test prop to your bridge together with the Var and not to replace the var with the prop. But you could do that as well.
I just think the Var is pretty pricy for the results you get if your BF is anything over 10. But that's just my opinion. If you have the cash and you recon you could drop BF by that time.. I think you will love the Anavar. Everyone reacts differently to compounds and you will only know how your body reacts if you give them a try.

G-man wrote: How's your cycle going my man...u doing the business?

My current cycle is going supa well bru! This week in particular has been really great. Maybe the Deca is only starting to show face now! :woohoo: I have honestly felt amazing on this cycle. Strength and recovery time have been so good. Overall, my best cycle so far.

prop + var bridge = good shit

Recovery with Nandrolone is super!

G, its going good my friend, loving it. Deca and NPP are by far two of my favourites!

Reason I suggested anaps is because you mentioned size and strength and when it comes to that anaps are insane.

With regards to the aromasin it just makes your pct feel that much better.

Whatever compounds you choose I am sure you know what you are doing, bend those irons my bud and enjoy it.

I suppose I'm just going to run test prop as my bridge...I just feel so much healthier on injectables.
Just confirm PCT is two weeks after my last test prop shot??

Went to go get my blood pressure checked today and my reading was 140/80...Is this anything to be concerned about??

Fillet and Ron,glad your cycles are going well:))

G-man wrote: confirm PCT is two weeks after my last test prop shot

Echo! :whistle:

Pyroclasm wrote:

G-man wrote: confirm PCT is two weeks after my last test prop shot

Echo! :whistle:

hehe yes sorry about that.
I know it's 14 days,was just thinking 2 weeks without test EEK!!!

During these two weeks you don't inject test, your test levels are still sky high. After you inject, the test slowly gets 'cleaved' (i.e released) from the ester. How fast this happens is the half life of the substance. To start your PCT you need to have less than 100mg test in your system. The normal male in his prime will on average produce about 40-60mg of testosterone per week naturally, so you will still have double the amount of test than the next guy.

Pyroclasm wrote: During these two weeks you don't inject test, your test levels are still sky high. After you inject, the test slowly gets 'cleaved' (i.e released) from the ester. How fast this happens is the half life of the substance. To start your PCT you need to have less than 100mg test in your system. The normal male in his prime will on average produce about 40-60mg of testosterone per week naturally, so you will still have double the amount of test than the next guy.

Pyro,thanks for clearing that up for me.
I suppose I also didnt completely understand prop as an ester and how exactly it works.

okey guys so I'm in week 3 of my cycle.
I'm already up 5kgs....no jokes.
The Tbol it seems is very slow though in terms of strength ....I thought the strength gains would come on quicker, so I'm a little bit dissapointed with the compound in that respect.
I'm definately more energised in the gym though,not using any caffiene before sessions and still feeling great throughout my workouts:)
The only sides I'm experiencing so far is nasty back pumps,struggled to get through my back routine today and 'one arm rows' was almost the death of me.I got some taurine so I'll see if that will make a difference.
Looking forward to the rest of my cycle though,I think it's gonna be a epic one hehe

G-man wrote: okey guys so I'm in week 3 of my cycle.
I'm already up 5kgs....no jokes.
The Tbol it seems is very slow though in terms of strength ....I thought the strength gains would come on quicker, so I'm a little bit dissapointed with the compound in that respect.
I'm definately more energised in the gym though,not using any caffiene before sessions and still feeling great throughout my workouts:)
The only sides I'm experiencing so far is nasty back pumps,struggled to get through my back routine today and 'one arm rows' was almost the death of me.I got some taurine so I'll see if that will make a difference.
Looking forward to the rest of my cycle though,I think it's gonna be a epic one hehe

Gman ja tbol slow on the strength side I like the compound because of less bloat it cause then dbol. Gains are of great quality thou but slow, keep up the hard work strength will increase once test kicks in keep us updated.

Your above 90kg's so you can up your tbol dose to 60mg. Split 40/20.

Lower back pumps are just one of the bitch effects tbol and dbol sometimes gives.

That's some really good progress already bud! The T's are working for sure, if that's what you have gained already. also didn't really notice huge strength gains from the T's hey. But they will come.. Just be patient.

Well done and keep going strong! You must rock this cycle! Make the most of every day! Looking forward to your up dates bru!

G-man wrote: okey guys so I'm in week 3 of my cycle.
I'm already up 5kgs....no jokes.
The Tbol it seems is very slow though in terms of strength ....I thought the strength gains would come on quicker, so I'm a little bit dissapointed with the compound in that respect.
I'm definately more energised in the gym though,not using any caffiene before sessions and still feeling great throughout my workouts:)
The only sides I'm experiencing so far is nasty back pumps,struggled to get through my back routine today and 'one arm rows' was almost the death of me.I got some taurine so I'll see if that will make a difference.
Looking forward to the rest of my cycle though,I think it's gonna be a epic one hehe

Have u bean able to add weight to the bar ..if yes then the Tbol has kicked normally takes a few days only...last time I used I could feel 3 days later when doing legs sometimes u must just search for the strengh by uping the kg on the bar...u will find the strengh is there....

Oupa wrote: Your above 90kg's so you can up your tbol dose to 60mg. Split 40/20.

Lower back pumps are just one of the bitch effects tbol and dbol sometimes gives.

yes sir:)I'll up my dose today....thanks.

RonTheSaveg wrote: That's some really good progress already bud! The T's are working for sure, if that's what you have gained already. also didn't really notice huge strength gains from the T's hey. But they will come.. Just be patient.

Well done and keep going strong! You must rock this cycle! Make the most of every day! Looking forward to your up dates bru!

yeh thanks,Ron.I think it's mostly my diet that's quite spot on and also the lack of alcohol that's maybe helping me gain some weight hehe.
When did u start picking up strength from the Tbol,dude?

mike123 wrote:

G-man wrote: okey guys so I'm in week 3 of my cycle.
I'm already up 5kgs....no jokes.
The Tbol it seems is very slow though in terms of strength ....I thought the strength gains would come on quicker, so I'm a little bit dissapointed with the compound in that respect.
I'm definately more energised in the gym though,not using any caffiene before sessions and still feeling great throughout my workouts:)
The only sides I'm experiencing so far is nasty back pumps,struggled to get through my back routine today and 'one arm rows' was almost the death of me.I got some taurine so I'll see if that will make a difference.
Looking forward to the rest of my cycle though,I think it's gonna be a epic one hehe

Have u bean able to add weight to the bar ..if yes then the Tbol has kicked normally takes a few days only...last time I used I could feel 3 days later when doing legs sometimes u must just search for the strengh by uping the kg on the bar...u will find the strengh is there....

o bud not really putting up weights on the bar as yet.I do more reps with my current weight tho and my reps are steady with each set so that's a bonus I suppose.
I'm going to up the dose as Oupa suggested and see what happens after that.
I only have 2 1/2 weeks left of Tbol kickstart then hopefully the testcyp has kicked in:)