Help with NPP

Hi All

i am planning a cycle to start the 2nd week in September.

The cycle is the Equipoise Powerhouse cycle as available on the downloads.

I was recommended by my trainer to add NPP in at week 6 - 10 @ 2cc (300mg) p/w
My Question to you guys now is that is NPP to be taken EOD or E3D.
Any advice on this would be great.

My diet is planned as follow:
Breakfast

100g Oats (weighed Uncooked)
2 Scoops Whey Protein
6 Egg Whites
1 Full Egg
Omega Supplement
Multi-Vitamin Supplement

10 o'clock

150g Chicken (Skinless, Weighed Raw)
1 Cup Mix Veggies
200g Sweet potato

1 o'clock

2 Cans Tuna
200g Basmati Rice
¼ Cucumber / 1 Cup Mix Veg
1 Table Spoon Tomato Sauce

3 o'clock

Whet Protein Shake
Handfull Almonds
or
100g Game Biltong
Dinner Spoon Peanut Butter

Pre Workout

Pre Workout Shake

Intra Workout

Whey Protein Shake (Serving)
Glutamine (5g)
Creatine (5g - 10g)

Post Workout

6 Egg Whites
100g Basmati Rice

Dinner

250g Lean Steak
Broccoli
Or
250g Fish
Omega Supplement

I checked this diet on fatsecret.co.za and it is as follow
Fat 93.84
Carbs 389.72
Sugar 19.91
Prot 357.34
Cals 3846
Will This be good enough?

At the moment I have a 89kg frame with 11% bf, 1.76cm long

daniel6 wrote: Hi All


I was recommended by my trainer to add NPP in at week 6 - 10 @ 2cc (300mg) p/w
My Question to you guys now is that is NPP to be taken EOD or E3D.
Any advice on this would be great.

That is kak idea !

NPP's half life is around 4.5 days so for best results, pin it at least twice a week for 8 weeks MINIMUM !

Oupa

Okay starting at week 1 Or Where?

and then what will dosage it be with each pin @ twice per week

yep at week one but why not do the eq cycle as is ....

Hi Mike

i am asking for assistance as my trainer suggested it to me so its just for the use of knowing in the future. Ill be happy to drop the NPP.

How does the diet look??

The diet looks ok but u need to use the calculater in the diet stickies to work out your maintenance calories then subtract for cutting or add for bulking ...between 200 and 500 cals

Used several calculators on google and found maintenance is about 2900 - 3400 so this might be a bit high will see as the time progress and adjust.

daniel6 wrote:
i am asking for assistance as my trainer suggested it to me so its just for the use of knowing in the future.

Why don't you just drop your trainer Daniel?? he obviously knows jack shit! :blink:

considering the advice i got here i am in a place where that will be the next step...
Rather use advice i gather on the forum and be my own trainer.

Lets say i choose to use NPP from week 1 - 10.
What will be a reasonable dose and what will the pinning schedule look like....

How many cycles have you done ? age ?

How many cycles have you done before?

24 years old

done 4 previous cycles
1st being dianabol and Test e for 12weeks NO PCT
2nd test E (could have been sustenon cant remember), Dianabol and bridge with anavar to pct
3rd Same as 2nd
4th Test E, Deca, Dianabol, Bridge with anavar

on all of the above i went on bro-advice.... Complete bullshit if you ask me.
didn't have a proper diet in order and no proper training schedule..

To be totally blunt about it I've been wasting my time and money on the previous cycles

This time round i am trying to get all in order for success ...

You did waste your time and money. and messed with hormone production without knowing what you are doing. This is the place to learn. there is no such thing as bro science when it comes to gear. Only one right way to do it. If guys like OUPA and MA says something. Follow it. no BS. these guys know how and know how to do it right. Your diet and training both on cycle. pct and off is gonna have to be 100%. else you can just take that money. throw it in the toilet. and flush.

What are your current stats Daniel? Ie: Height, weight, Body fat %? And what are the goals are you are wanting to achieve from this cycle?

RonTheSaveg wrote: What are your current stats Daniel? Ie: Height, weight, Body fat %? And what are the goals are you are wanting to achieve from this cycle?

Sorry my bad, it's on your 1st post. :silly: never mind.

daniel6 wrote:
At the moment I have a 89kg frame with 11% bf, 1.76cm long

What i want to achieve is to go up to maybe 95 - 98kg with 6 - 8%bf
the cycle is a nice and long 171 days so there is no rush to gain as much as possible in the shortest time possible.. I will be happy with a slow steady lean muscle gain

I don't understand why you'd have a trainer with those stats bru?? Anyway, like you say you'll get better advice on this forum. You just wasting your's or your folks cash

I called him a trainer (Don't know why) but i went to him for advice on a diet and a training program. He trains the guys to go and stand for competitions so he's actually the only guy at our gym that knows a thing or two...

We (me) are in a community where bodybuilding isn't to popular... its mostly the cross-fit assholes and then the people that just want to stay in shape.

So its difficult around here to find people to help and he was my only option.

RonTheSaveg wrote: You just wasting your's or your folks cash

Unfortunately its my own hard earned cash:(

The pinning schedule on the Equip powerhouse is a guidline and should change if you are planning that exact cycle. Will you be using PGW Supertest320 and PGW Equi ?

Oupa wrote: The pinning schedule on the Equip powerhouse is a guidline and should change if you are planning that exact cycle. Will you be using PGW Supertest320 and PGW Equi ?

Yep PGW products exactly as it states in the download...
How would you say i change the pinnings Oupa...

I was thinking of adding a start-up like anapolon for the first 4 weeks just to get the strength up.. i know i will bloat like hell with the a-boms but want to try them and see how my body reacts to it..

I wouldn't even add the NPP. It's your first EQ cycle and you won't know how you respond to the EQ if you're doing NPP as well. Some people respond well while others like myself get more lean muscle from 350mg deca than 700mg EQ. EQ can take 7-8 weeks before you notice the full effects and the wait can be quite frustrating, so yes adding NPP will help 'speed things up'. More is not always better though.

If you do choose to add the NPP since you're already doing 700mg EQ I would just add 300mg/week NPP split into 2 shots a week. PGW NPP is top notch.

I agree 100% with MA.

Split that current pinning schedule with the powerhouse cycle to

Supertest 1ml Mondays & 1ml Thursdays
EQ 1ml Mondays & 1ml Thursday.

Dont taper the var dose. Keep at 60mg and extend to 8 weeks

Run the proviron throughout if you have the cash, 100mg Proviron is a waist of money. 40mg is enough.

If you are not gyno prone, drop the Adex and keep it on hand.

Oupa wrote: I agree 100% with MA.

Split that current pinning schedule with the powerhouse cycle to

Supertest 1ml Mondays & 1ml Thursdays
EQ 1ml Mondays & 1ml Thursday.

Oky Oupa got you on that one.. was also thinking about doing that to get more stable blood levels.

Oupa wrote: Dont taper the var dose. Keep at 60mg and extend to 8 weeks

On the previous cycles i used anavar at 80 - 100mg. Is 60mg enough?

Oupa wrote: Run the proviron throughout if you have the cash, 100mg Proviron is a waist of money. 40mg is enough.

Just so that i've got it right.. You suggest that i take proviron from day one and take it at 40mg ED throughout until pct??

Oupa wrote: If you are not gyno prone, drop the Adex and keep it on hand.

Not really gyno prone but had some puffy and lumpy nips when i upped dianabol to 60mg but letro cleared that out fast. Do you still suggest dropping the adex and just keep it by for emergency or do i use it. If i Use it or drop it will it make any difference to the active anabolics working internally. Correct me if im wrong but adex is a AI used to combat estrogen related sides of het ek die kat aan die gat beet.

Var at 100mg for 8 weeks is stupid, even 80mg is high unless you accept the health risks. 6 weeks 80mg or 8 weeks 60mg is a safe option for healthy fit people.

If you had estrogen sides before from dbols, you sure as hell need it for anapolon. And also cabaser because anapolon has an effect on your prolactin. I have seen many guys suffer with lactating nippels on anapolon.

En jy is reg oor AI en estrogen sides.