New cycle plan: cyp, tren ace, anavar

Novice!
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18 Sep 2014 17:34 #174806 by Novice!

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Hi all,

Hopefully some one has some advice for my next cycle since no one could offer diet advice.

Planning a 12 weeker:

1-12 pgw test cyp 400mg p/w
3-11 pgw tren ace 400mg p/w
4-12 LP anavar 60mg p/d
1-12 LP proviron 40mg p-d
1-12 hcg 250iu x 2 p/w

Pct:
15-17 Ovidrel equivalent to 1000iu e2d
18-20 Clomid 100mg p/d
21-> 20mg nolva p/d

Using the test cyp as short ester's with fluctuating hormone levels mess with my stomach.
Tren ace for the nice punch and lean gains, anavar added for additional solid gains.

Will hav caber on hand for any prolactin issues,

Diet is incredibly controlled as my stomach cant handle any junk.

This isnt my first tren experience but will be a new take on it, trying for a body recomp, not looking to get huge rather quality gains.

Any advice will be appreciated!

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18 Sep 2014 18:08 #174809 by Oupa

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If you can afford it, drop the proviron and add masteron 150. Clomid @ 100mg for 2 weeks ?

Tren Ace @ 400mg per week for 8 weeks.. hmmmm

Whats your planned bridge ? You can shift your chemicals around to optimize your cycle.

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18 Sep 2014 18:30 - 18 Sep 2014 18:35 #174811 by Novice!

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Hi Oupa, thank you,

Dont think ill be able to afford mast, unless I add mast enan and do 2ml per week?
Is 300mg enough as an effective dose?

And are u concerned with Tren ace at 8 weeks?

What would be your recommendation for rearranging the chemicals?

Bridge planned for win tabs 30-40mg per day

Clomid @ 100mg to stimulate testes before the nolva? Not good?

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18 Sep 2014 22:51 - 18 Sep 2014 22:51 #174821 by Oupa

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300mg Masteron 150 is a sweet spot.. depending on your size. So if you can sub proviron for masteron.

If you have experience with tren A @ 400mg per week then its fine. I get bos befok on 400mg+ Tren A a week

Have a look at this sample.

1 - 5 tbol @ 40mg ED
1 - 12 pgw test cyp 250mg p/w
6 - 14 pgw tren ace 400mg p/w
8 – 16 LP anavar 60mg p/d
1 – 14 Masteron E 300mg p/w
8 - 16 hcg 250iu x 2 p/w

Pct:
2 days after you finished Anavar start Clomid @ 50mg ED for 15 days. (LP)
19 -> Nolvadex @ 20mg ED for 30 days (LP)

Last edit: 18 Sep 2014 22:51 by Oupa.

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18 Sep 2014 23:17 #174827 by Muscleaddict

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Nice cycle there Oupa. Yummy.

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18 Sep 2014 23:20 #174829 by Oupa

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Muscleaddict wrote: Nice cycle there Oupa. Yummy.

Very yummy indeed my friend.

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19 Sep 2014 21:06 #174898 by Novice!

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Thanks Oupa,

I dont think I will be able to afford mast and tbol, i've got winny inject could I substitute that for the tbol?

Yay more injections

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19 Sep 2014 22:51 - 19 Sep 2014 23:09 #174903 by Novice!

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Oupa wrote:
Have a look at this sample.

1 - 5 tbol @ 40mg ED
1 - 12 pgw test cyp 250mg p/w
6 - 14 pgw tren ace 400mg p/w
8 – 16 LP anavar 60mg p/d
1 – 14 Masteron E 300mg p/w
8 - 16 hcg 250iu x 2 p/w.

Sorry some other questions, I see your cyp is 250mg p/w? Do you also advocate the use of low test high tren to counteract the tren side effects or was this a typo?

I have a good couple of proviron on hand, im trying to not blow the bank on this cycle but rather spend money on quality food my body can handle.

I respect your advice Oupa, but I think for now ill go with the proviron route.

Would adding t3 be any help seeing as i am on tren and am aiming for lean gains,

Was thinking of doing a standard pyramid working up to 60-80mcg per day depending on how I feel and if I can handle the sweating and lack of sleep.. and then tapering slowly down while adding a thyroid pct post t3. - I too hav this from previous a cycle

In my stash atm:

30ml win inj 50mg
30ml tren ace 80mg
20ml cyp 250mg
150 x anavar 20mg
150 x proviron 20mg
200 x tertroxin 20mcg
2 x hcg 5000iu
2 x clomid 50mg
1x nolva 20mg

Last edit: 19 Sep 2014 23:09 by Novice!.

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Oupa
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19 Sep 2014 23:14 #174906 by Oupa

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No typo. 250mg test.

Yes you can use winnies.

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20 Sep 2014 06:19 #174913 by Novice!

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Sweet thanks, if by some how I can get some mast ill throw it in the mix as well.

Hopefully will get the results im after.

Thanks for the help,
Much appreciated!

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23 Sep 2014 23:07 #175154 by Novice!

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If any one is following I'll be updating as I progress through this cycle:

Current stats:
94kg 13% bf 1.8m

Finally settled on this cycle, based on Oupa's advice, what products I have access to as well as what I've been saving up.

1-12 test cyp @ 350mg p/w (pgw or phizer)
1-4 win inj @ 50mg e2d (RWR)
4-12 tren ace @ 420mg p/w (PGW)
6-15 anavar @ 60mg p/d (LP)
1-15 Proviron @ 40mg p/d (LP)
1-15 hcg 250iu x 2 p/w

PCT as per Oupa's recommendation.
Pct:
2 days after you finished Anavar start Clomid @ 50mg ED for 15 days. (LP)
19 -> Nolvadex @ 20mg ED for 30 days (LP)

The only part i am unsure about, is if I were to throw some t3 in the mix where would the most efficient portion of the cycle be?

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Lex
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24 Sep 2014 01:24 #175156 by Lex

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Hmm mate I have a few question ? Why are u using winny in the first 4weeks of cycle ? Winny isn't a good kick stArt
At all man second thing u planning on pinning winny e2d ? I don't knw what that means ? I assume u mean eod ? Every other day ? And if so no winny is a suspension ester which needs to be pinned every day...seeing as u have anavar In the stack I would choose either winny or anavar but if u wanna do both then why not run anavar in your first 9weeks and use winny in the bridge from like week 11-15 ? Also use t3 when u start tren so from week 4 that's when I would add it in...goodluck man

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24 Sep 2014 07:51 #175157 by Novice!

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Hi Lex,

Thank you for your reply, I appreciate the comments!

And yes e2d = every two days ie eod.

as far as i've read online on this forum and abroad, the general consensus is to inject win eod,
I do realize the suspension is water based and ed would be ideal, but fark! that is not going to be fun :blink:

what are your reasons for saying win is not a good kickstart?
I personally enjoy it over dbol and anaps as I gain water like a mofo and am quite sensitive to estrogen.
Winstrol gives me a few kg, decent strength and solid muscles while the cyp is starting to work.

Not arguing with you just engaging in a bit of verbal jousting

I enjoy hearing how my ideaas compare to the idea's of the fellow members on this board

And thanks for the t3 comment will do so, starting 20mcg with the tren and work up to 40-60mcg per day before tapering down

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Lex
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24 Sep 2014 08:14 #175158 by Lex

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Haha chilled man hmm u can always drink then winny hey...winny is a dht drugs it's usualy best at the end or closer to the end of your cycle to dry u out and loose some water u might have gained on course...I understand what u gain water from dbol nd anap but maybe try see ur orginal plan with tbol ? Hey at the end of it it's ur choice bro

just wishing u all the best I'm sure either way this will be a great cycle..ja t3 dosing is perfect I did the exact same but worked from 20 right up till 80 and tapered down
Anyway goodluck man

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24 Sep 2014 08:23 #175159 by Fakey_AK

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On the winny injection subject. Ed is better but what you also can do is get some tabs and run them eod on the days you not running the injectable. I personally have used winny as a kickstart and it work great (depending on goals) but one side which most suffer from is the joint pain you will get and that can make it harder to go heavier on lifts, especially if you have a nagging old injury. So up your omega intake and get a good quality joint supplement if you go that route. Another thing you can do is cut the injectable winny with b12 and complex, makes injections easier and lesser chance of heavy pip.

"The hardest lift of all, is your ass of the couch!"

"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." - Samuel Johnson

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24 Sep 2014 09:27 #175160 by Rhino

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I'd just squirt the injectable Winni down my throat ED It'll work exacataly the same. Injecting Winni sucks ass.

Go big or go home...

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24 Sep 2014 21:34 #175177 by Oupa

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Novice! wrote:
And thanks for the t3 comment will do so, starting 20mcg with the tren and work up to 40-60mcg per day before tapering down

20mcg tren ? that wont do shit

No need for 60mcg T3.

Last thing, Tren, Winnies and T3 will give your personality a serious crash. You will become the biggest doos in town. I hope your not married or in a relationship, and if you are, warn them that Captain DOOZ in on the way, and you need their support.

Solid advice with the Winnies Fakey_AK

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26 Sep 2014 22:28 #175299 by Novice!

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26 Sep 2014 22:40 #175303 by Rhino

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Novice! wrote: 1

What's 1 supposed to mean :blink:

Go big or go home...

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28 Sep 2014 18:26 #175385 by Novice_2.0

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28 Sep 2014 20:18 #175388 by Novice!

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test

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28 Sep 2014 20:29 #175389 by Oupa

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What are you testing ? You created a Novice_2.0 account for what reason ?

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28 Sep 2014 20:34 - 28 Sep 2014 20:35 #175390 by Novice!

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I randomly cant post anything hey Oupa. been in contact with Admin. so just seeing what works..

Was advised to create another account.

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28 Sep 2014 20:37 #175391 by Oupa

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Ok.

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28 Sep 2014 20:42 #175392 by Novice!

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@ fakey, I find the injections to be more effective but am considering doing the injections eod and then drinking the winny on the alternate days therefore creating more stable blood levels whilst benefiting form the injections.

@ Lex, how long were u on t3 for and how long were you running your maximum dose? were results worth it?

@ Rhino, I agree the injections do suck to some extent but I prefer them due to the less strain on ones liver. especially since i am following it up with 8 weeks of anavar.

And I seem to have mastered the art of pain free winny injections.

site rotation is my biggest pain!

@ Oupa, Will be doing a lot more tren than that

How come you do not recommend the t3? or are you just suggesting a different daily dose?

And my GF is away for the next 3months, so captain doos can park on his own at home :silly:

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