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Declyn
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12 Nov 2014 14:07 #177467 by Declyn

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Sustenon 500mg per week, NNP 450mg per week, test prop 300mg per week?
Front load with oxymethalone for 4 weeks at 50mg per day
Proviron and tamoxifen are there for water retention and precaution for gyno.

Not a beginner been using for a few years? weight is roughy 95kgs, 10 - 12% body fat.

will follow a structured meal plan for lean mass gain.

Would like thoughts and comments?? Thanks

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Mason Might
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12 Nov 2014 14:16 #177468 by Mason Might

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How long do you intend this cycle to be?

Do you mean use tamoxifen as an AI? There are far better options, rather keep it for PCT.
Speaking of PCT, what's your plan with that?

Also do you want to run the prop and sustanon alongside one another for the entire duration of the cycle? I think it may be a bit of a waste?

Lastly, I hope you have cabasser for the Npp.

What cycles have you run in the past bud?

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Declyn
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12 Nov 2014 14:34 #177470 by Declyn

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Cabasser for Npp?

Do have arimedex as well.

Have used all kinds of ester with test, sus and prop have worked best with me.

Anabolics usually tren, masteron and stanazolol. used E.Q as well also responded well.

Want to run about a 12 week cycle?

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IronHeart
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12 Nov 2014 14:35 #177471 by IronHeart

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Like Mason Might said

Cabaser is a must on a decca cycle.

@Mason Might I'm guessing he's going to use the prop with naps for a frontload.

Don't use tamox during cycle, you can run the proviron from the start and as part of a bridge.

What is your cycle history?

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Mason Might
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12 Nov 2014 14:56 #177473 by Mason Might

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Yea bud you will need Cabasser for the NPP. NPP is Nandrolnone.

Ok, I'm personally not a fan of Sustanon. But prop with a front load is fine.

Use the arimidex, you know your body and if you are gyno prone you can use it from the outset at,.2mg EOD.

Again you're running a Nor19 so Hcg during the cycle is advisable. 500iu per week, split it Mondays and Thursdays.

NPP will shut you down hard so follow Doctaris PCT, just ignore the Ovidrel as you will have run HCG during the cycle.

12 weeks is good...
Make sure you wait 54 days between the last Sustanon injection and commencing PCT.
Look at prop during this time, or even an oral like var or tbol will be a good bridge.

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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Declyn
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12 Nov 2014 15:34 #177474 by Declyn

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Thanks Mason

Yeah used the doctori PCT and ovidrel didn't work as well as hcg?? Glad you said it
cause I was thinking it.

Cabbasser? Forgive my stupidity, but what is that? never heard that terminology before?

Yeah prop front load with anadrolic

@ trarex

Thanks for confirming the advice. done a few cycles, my knowledge now is better. so would only say the last 4 cycle were worth while and thought out. always learning more. mainly used masteron, tren and prop pinned 3x per week. proviron all cycle, last few weeks before comp added anavar.

always hit recommended doses according to this site.

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Mason Might
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12 Nov 2014 15:38 #177475 by Mason Might

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With regards to cabasser, you may know it as bromo
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/drug...neous/44-cabergoline

Ovidrel and HCG do the same thing, no tangible difference between the two. But yes run it on cycle and not during PCT

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Declyn
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12 Nov 2014 15:45 #177478 by Declyn

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Bromocriptine... yes.

What would the dosage be? and would you run that from week one of the cycle right through?

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Declyn
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12 Nov 2014 15:48 #177479 by Declyn

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Thanks again Mason Might, read the thread. Dostinex and bromo? not the same thing.

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Mason Might
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12 Nov 2014 16:00 #177481 by Mason Might

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The function is the same. You would run one or the other bud in the articles section it gives a break down of dosing it.

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Chem1
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12 Nov 2014 16:12 - 12 Nov 2014 16:13 #177482 by Chem1

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I wouldn't run any caber unless required especially on a deca cycle. Tren would be more concern for caber usage but even then with good AI usage and estrogen control you may not need it even then.

I've never heard of running prop along side sust but there will be some decent aromatising going on so I'd go with arimidex .5mg E3D

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Declyn
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13 Nov 2014 16:33 #177533 by Declyn

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Opinions...

Do you think it would be better to replace sus with supatest from pgw?
dosage to 640mg per week with the npp?

Thanks

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Mason Might
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13 Nov 2014 17:35 #177540 by Mason Might

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I say yes...

Why, you ask?

Because it's PGW.

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13 Nov 2014 21:57 #177542 by Oupa

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I didnt know PGW makes Supatest. Last time i check it was called Super Test.

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Declyn
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14 Nov 2014 05:18 #177544 by Declyn

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I am pro PGW, its all I use since tried. was going to use npp from PGW anyway

was just a question as I see sus has a bad rap according to most

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Rhino
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14 Nov 2014 05:23 #177545 by Rhino

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Super test or even testE and just front load the first month with Prop.

Go big or go home...

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Declyn
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14 Nov 2014 05:27 #177546 by Declyn

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Thanks Rhino,

Could I ask your opinion on sus? or experiances?

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Rhino
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14 Nov 2014 07:34 - 14 Nov 2014 07:36 #177549 by Rhino

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Ye sus is fine I just think the half life is to long so waiting 50 days for it to clear isn't ideal when the Npp will clear so quickly.

My next cycle I'll run NPP/Mas prop/Test Prop for 10 weeks I prefer the shorter esters and if they are all the same it makes pinning easier plus you don't have such a long bridge. I'll run the test prop for 12 weeks 2 longer than the NPP and add winny or Tbol for the last 4 weeks till pct.

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Mason Might
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14 Nov 2014 07:46 #177550 by Mason Might

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Rhino wrote: Ye sus is fine I just think the half life is to long so waiting 50 days for it to clear isn't ideal when the Npp will clear so quickly.

My next cycle I'll run NPP/Mas prop/Test Prop for 10 weeks I prefer the shorter esters and if they are all the same it makes pinning easier plus you don't have such a long bridge. I'll run the test prop for 12 weeks 2 longer than the NPP and add winny or Tbol for the last 4 weeks till pct.

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