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Dianabol + Anavar + Nolvadex will make a pretty bad cycle. How many of each do you have, because I recommend you get some Testosterone, Clomid and HCG as well and do this cycle: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/sample-cycles/48-cycle-1
You can add your Anavar as a bridge before PCT. Let us know how many Dianabol, Anavar and Nolvadex you have and what the dosages are for each tablet/capsule.
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The only advice I have to offer is research research research.
The more you know the better your questions will become and as a result, the better advice you can receive from the pros on here.
Good luck and keep us updated.
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Sustanon 250, Deca 300mg and dianbol. Pct Pregnol 5000iu and clomed.
The previous cycle I posted was not well thought out, but it was all i could get my hands on at that time plus crap advise from in experienced people.
What are your thoughts on the above mentioned cycle? I'm planning to start it on the 5th of Jan. For a guy my age and weight what appropriate dosages would you prescribe? (just getting a second opinion here)
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Honestly your cycle is not very well planned and I'm sure others would agree.
Throwing in Deca in your first cycle is not necessary and try to stick to a single ester like cypionate or enanthate instead of sustanon.
Also we Need your dosages and pinning schedules.Your PCT needs alot of work....check out the pct section in the articles list,very informative and will help you alot.
Im really no expert ,but honestly you want to start your cycle in Jan and your no where near ready.
Before enhancing your body enhance your mind.
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While you at it, get the diet and training sorted out now too, plus someone is going to ask how does your diet or daily meals look like.
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I got a few good pointers not only from my thread but from the forum in general. Despite the advice I went against my better judgement and did it anyway. My dealer is quite huge and well built. So his advice at the time seemed Godly as this is a person I see and interact with regularly. After spending some time on the forum I started to realize its all about the SAFE use. I hope to do better on my 2nd cycle.
I'm three weeks in. Deca 300, Sus 250 and dbol.
Dbol 50mg Everyday (4 weeks)
Deca 600mg weekly(1 ml every third day) (12 weeks)
Sus 500mg weekly (1 ampule every third day) (14 weeks)
Going to go with PCT 2 from the samples
# I know it was not advised for a beginner, the first week was total horror as I suffered from severe headaches.
everything seems to be going well up to so far.
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There is plenty of info on here as to why not to use Deca on a first cycle.
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Pyroclasm wrote: If you run the HCG during cycle you don't need to run it again during PCT. Very important! Do you have an AI?
Hey Pyro,
Sorry to jack the thread here.
I'm running a test Cyp cycle 14 weeks and thought about running HCG with winny in my Bridge. 250iu, 2 x week
Will it be OK to run HCG again with PCT together with the Nolva, 500iu EOD
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Naftaly wrote: Not at hand, however only takes me a day to get whatever I need if anything is to arise. You've been very helpful thanks again Pyroclasm.
I speak from lank experience when I tell you this phrase has a way of biting you in the ass. I help gladly man.
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Hudlim031 wrote:
Pyroclasm wrote: If you run the HCG during cycle you don't need to run it again during PCT. Very important! Do you have an AI?
Hey Pyro,
Sorry to jack the thread here.
I'm running a test Cyp cycle 14 weeks and thought about running HCG with winny in my Bridge. 250iu, 2 x week
Will it be OK to run HCG again with PCT together with the Nolva, 500iu EOD
Much better to run the HCG early on in the cycle to prevent hypertophy from the beginning. It can't do damage if you run the HCG during cycle and PCT but its overkill. Only in a very suppressive cycle I would consider something like that. Your dosages for HCG are the most important.
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Week 1-12 test cyp 500mg(250mg monday and thursday)
Week 1-4 dbols 40mg ed I would split dosage in two and take it twice daily cuase of the short halflife.
Week 13-18 anavar 60mg and proviron 20mg
I'd leave the hcg for the pct and not run it in the cycle. Start pct week 19 two days after last anavar and proviron dose.
For pct run the clomid, nolvadex and hcg. Only start nolvadex and hcg after day 7 when finished with clomid.
Its simple, easy and proved by many to be ons of the best starting cycles.
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Pyroclasm wrote:
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Pyroclasm wrote: If you run the HCG during cycle you don't need to run it again during PCT. Very important! Do you have an AI?
Hey Pyro,
Sorry to jack the thread here.
I'm running a test Cyp cycle 14 weeks and thought about running HCG with winny in my Bridge. 250iu, 2 x week
Will it be OK to run HCG again with PCT together with the Nolva, 500iu EOD
Much better to run the HCG early on in the cycle to prevent hypertophy from the beginning. It can't do damage if you run the HCG during cycle and PCT but its overkill. Only in a very suppressive cycle I would consider something like that. Your dosages for HCG are the most important.
Ah I see. Thanks.
Is the 250iu twice a week good for the bridge though?
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Unfortunately I had to cut my cycle short due to certain reasons.
My last pinning(sus250) was on the 27th of Feb. Making it an 8 week cycle in total. I will be starting pct 54 days later which will be on the 22 April. I'v seen a good change in my physique. I was planning to go with pct 2.However would going with pct 1 clomid and novaldex be a bad idea? I know I took deca initially for about 4eeeks. For the next cycle I decided to stick to the beginners cycle as is from the sample cycles. Just perhaps add winny as a bridge. 2nd cycle will start sometime in July if not August. Taking it slow till I actually know what I'm doing. Thanks for your inputs once more!
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8 weeks + 54 days (bridge) + 37 days (PCT) = 147 days or 21 weeks.
So that puts you into October if PCT starts on 22 April.
In that light, short cycles & or Short half-lives are attractive
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Oupiel wrote: Re. next cycle - Remember time off = Time on & that both the bridge & PCT count as being on.
8 weeks + 54 days (bridge) + 37 days (PCT) = 147 days or 21 weeks.
So that puts you into October if PCT starts on 22 April.
In that light, short cycles & or Short half-lives are attractive
Thanks for that.. I actually read that on one of your other posts if i'm not mistaken. I did not think Pct was regarded as time on.
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