next cycle?? what will it be??

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18 Mar 2015 12:35 #183083 by mcpump
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I know its early but I'm contemplating my next cycle. I'm now on pgw testen 300 at 450mg/week and pgw equi at 525mg/week and the gain thus far have been great! I've still got a ways to go on this cycle but I'm wanting to buy my gear for next cycle along with my pct and bridge for this one.

I'm at 7% bf, 85kg, 1.8 meters. Looking at either:

Pgw testen300 @ 450mg/week1-16
Pgw equi350 @ 700mg/week1-16
Pgw deca350 @ 525mg/ week1-16

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Pgw testen300 @ 450mg/week1-16
Pgw equi350 @ 700mg/week1-16
Pgw tren enth 150 @ 300mg/week1-16

Having a gard time deciding on tren or deca and also deciding if I wane up the test to 600mg, I've hade GREAT gains on the low daosages I'm shooting now. More so than 30 months ago when I was pinning sustaplex 325 @ 650mg/week and deccaplex300 @ 600mg week.

There's a few guys on here I'd like to hear from. Thanx

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18 Mar 2015 13:13 #183090 by Pyroclasm
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I believe firmly in using Nandrolone before you use Trenbolone. Always keep the Tren as a smoking gun for later cycles when your androgen receptors are not as responsive as you'd like them to be.

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18 Mar 2015 14:28 #183106 by Muscleaddict
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If you're at 7% body fat then I would definitely leave then tren and go with deca rather. If you want something to harden you up then go with anavar/winny/masteron towards the end of your cycle.

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18 Mar 2015 17:24 #183169 by mcpump
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Okay agreed. Thank you! Any thoughts on dosages I suggested?

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18 Mar 2015 17:26 #183170 by mcpump
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And also maybe just add mast to the decca cycle?

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18 Mar 2015 19:40 #183181 by 00pump
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Masteron is great to add to any cycle, the same as primobolan ..

"Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right"--Henry Ford

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18 Mar 2015 20:14 #183182 by donkiekong
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What benefit or changes will adding masteron bring to the cycle?

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18 Mar 2015 21:34 #183191 by Mason Might
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Masteron will harden you up, reduce SHBG it's mild there's a host of reasons.

Bur not for first cycle DK

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.
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19 Mar 2015 10:51 #183235 by mcpump
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Can I assume that the planned dosages are fine? Not having to up the test?

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20 Mar 2015 12:04 #183336 by mcpump
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Pyro, muscle, oopump, mason??

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20 Mar 2015 12:20 #183337 by Mason Might
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Just read your topic again.

I'd like to point out low dose PGW gave better gains than higher dose of another lab.

I'd up the test to 600mg
Deca at 525mg a week is good!
And I'd drop the equipose and add Masteron At 450mg a week.

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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20 Mar 2015 12:21 #183338 by Mason Might
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Definitely stay away from tren for now, and when you use it for the first time go acetate

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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20 Mar 2015 12:25 - 20 Mar 2015 12:31 #183339 by Oupiel
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Is the current cycle your first?
If yes, then your next cycle will be your second?
I re-read - so current is 2nd and next would be 3rd?

If the current cycle worked well for you i.e. good gains, that you maintain most of with few side effect;
Then why change things?
If it ain't broke.....?

More isn't necessarily better and you may be able to get good results again, using the same.

Or

The same with an Oral front load
Switch to test prop at the end & oral bridge to PCT.

Also depends a lot on your goals?

My 2 cents

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20 Mar 2015 12:26 #183340 by donkiekong
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MM Why would you suggest mast over equi? Wouldn't equi give more mass than mast would ?

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20 Mar 2015 12:29 #183341 by Mason Might
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@ 7% he will love the Mast. In addition it's a mild anti estrogen while still allowing more free test to circulate.

I'd separate equi and Deca initially so he can learn how he reacts to each compound independently.

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.
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20 Mar 2015 12:30 #183342 by Oupa
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Interesting topic :P

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20 Mar 2015 12:31 #183343 by Mason Might
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I do agree with Oupiel though, a conservative approach is always better...

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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20 Mar 2015 12:32 #183344 by Mason Might
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Oupa wrote: Interesting topic :P


What's your thoughts Oup's?

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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20 Mar 2015 12:34 #183345 by donkiekong
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@MM - very good answer bud , as this would be his first time doing deca , so he should learn what the compound does to and for him on its own , makes more sense now thank you

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20 Mar 2015 12:34 #183346 by Oupiel
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Also, you won't know how good this current cycle is or isn't until you're well past PCT.

And, having gear on hand burning a hole in your arse.......
You're not gonna wait the proper time off before jumping the gun :evil:

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20 Mar 2015 12:37 #183347 by Mason Might
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Oupiel wrote: Also, you won't know how good this current cycle is or isn't until you're well past PCT.

And, having gear on hand burning a hole in your arse.......
You're not gonna wait the proper time off before jumping the gun :evil:


Experience talking? :P

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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20 Mar 2015 12:39 #183348 by donkiekong
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Hahahaha that's funny you guys can't wait to start your next cycle and I'll scared shitless to start my first

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20 Mar 2015 13:16 #183351 by mcpump
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This I my 8th cycle.. But my first in 2and half years. That's why I decided on low dosages, and like mentioned I getting really really good gains. I like the equi as its pushing my vascularity through the roof.. On the stats at 85kg I might sound small but I'm turning heads walking around town vains pumping. Remember 7% is actually really low bf I very lean and enjoy the look. But am wanting to put on some size tho. Listen the above mentioned compounds are not my entire cycle its the only ones I wanted second opinions on the dosages. I'm liking the low dosages as I'm suffering very little sides and gaining like a "skaap in the voerkraal".. My concern is that if I keep the dosages as low for next cycle I might not gain like the one I'm on now. Mason might as always good advise. Thanx bru

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20 Mar 2015 15:49 #183357 by Mason Might
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No stress Bro.

But seriously the Mast will do you some serious good at such a low body fat.

What is the entire cycle?

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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20 Mar 2015 15:49 #183359 by Mason Might
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So good I used serious twice ;)

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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