First Cycle Help

Now that you mention it, i recall reading that juice doesnt cut, only strict diet and cardio does that.

I will definitely post a pic tonight.

Thanks for your help!

Wasn't being funny bud :pinch:.

But yea best bet to wait.
Although there is evidence that test could facilitate the dropping of body fat. But IMO not worth shutting down for it. Diet and cardio are the best bet.

But we will have a better idea once the pics are up. Those machines are kak.

Lol, i assumed those machines are kak and thats why you asked.

Hopefully my bf% is low enough to start my cycle, im dead keen to get started.

Haha Yea man, all been there.

IMO a 1st cycle should be to add mass, not cut /recomp

Good afternoon gents,

Oupa and MM, here are my photos, sorry for the delay had a ctazy shift yesterday. lol please dont judge to harshly. Taking these photos made me realise that i seriously need to get some meat on my bones.[img][IMG]http://i59.tinypic.com/2chncr7.jpg[/img][/img][img][IMG]http://i60.tinypic.com/vdh2jb.jpg[/img][/img]

Jeez you're not kidding about getting some meat on your bones.
You're so skinny I can't even see you.

Seriously, I can't see you - re-post pics

Hahahahaha sorry about that... that tiny pic url is quite faulty!

Will repost now...

Lol, finally! Please dnt judge to harshly.

I reckon you're closer to 15-18%

I'd run the cycle bud...

Really? Thats great news! So i still have to come down but im happy to hear i can atleast run my cycle!! So all good for the beginner bulk cycle?

Oh speaking of, MM where can i read about mixing my hcg to run on cycle? U said i should rather run it on cycle at 250ui EOD, right?

Ive found threads about pinning hcg but it was for woman, which is obvious, they say u pin in the stomach next to ur navel?

You guys are LEGENDS!! Thank you so much for all the help!

MM and oupa, sent some karma your way.

Agree and disagree. 17% BF give or take.
Imo I would drop down to 12% before I cycle. If you know your body you can drop 5% without fatburners in 4-6 weeks. Will make your cycle a lot less stressful with less risk of sides, and it gives you time to sort out your 2500cal bulking diet, and source All your gear, AI's and Pct.
But like I said, thats only my opinion.

Razorblade, im not sure that i know my body well enough to do that, ive been gyming for a while but ive only started taking it seriously for the past like 4-5months... how would my diet have to be adjusted? Fatburners would get it down even quicker i assume?

Also if i run hcg on cycle with arimidex on hand and use the pct2 (excl hcg) found on this site wont i be "handeling" the sides? When u say stressful, are u refering to "stressful on my body"?

Bud, this is only my opinion.
But 17% is fine to run a test only or test and wini cycle. But 17% is still to much fat for dbols and deca. They will aromatise and cause stress on your body and your mind. You will be worried about bloat, sides etc instead of putting all your energy into keeping your diet 100% clean and leaving everything you have behind in the gym after your session.
With a lower body fat you can detect sides as well as mistakes in your diet much quicker than with a deflated spare tyre around your waist.
Im also of the opinion that your first cycle will always be your most memorable and the one you gain the most, therefor I believe first cycles should be to add mass to your frame not cut fat. If you started your cycle today you will be worried about your BF everyday and trying to get it down while trying to grow (this is much much harder said than done)

Go to the stickies in the dieting section. Go read up on how to structure a bulking diet with 20% cals above maintenance. Learn what your bmr and tdee is. Work out how many cals you need to get to 20% above( will be closer to 4000 than 2500.)
Play around for a few weeks with lower carbs, increase them weekly and you will notice what your body likes and prefers. This will help alot on cycle to ensure you keep your metabolism at super speeds to burn fat while you eat the entire cow and the plate it came on.

Also 4-5 months is not enough experience in the gym to go on a deca and bdol cycle. Your tendons is going to hate you.

Look bud, you can still do a lot going naturally. However the liklihood of you doing so is small and I understand this.

I believe you will be fine to run a cycle with maintenance dose of adex.

Your HCG will be pinned twice a week. Subcutaneous shots with an insulin syringe. the orange u-100 does the job. Start HCG at week 5 and continue until a couple days before PCT.

Sort your diet out 100% before you start. Ensure training is on point and that you get adequate rest with quality sleep.

Hey ToXic,

Welcome bro.
I have worked hard to get my bodyfat down before starting another cycle and it was a great decision that I took seriously.
Judging by your pic you are under 20% bodyfat definitely but would still lose a couple of percent before starting your cycle.

Your vascurality is good and you have the kind of body that could get big and ripped bro.
Follow the advice on here and you will be a monster.
Good luck and keep us updated.

Nate

Hey Nate,

Thanks for the advice dude, i really appreciate it!

Everybody in here has been seriously helpful and ive learnt alot about how to do it right. All the guidance here has been priceless.

After speaking to my miss about this i decided, or she rather insisted, lol, to rather play it safe and drop till about 12% before i start my first cycle.

I appreciate you saying that dude, i want to be built like a monster as im sure we all do. Its good knowing that i have the right body type to do this.

I will most certainly keep you posted. Thanks again dude!

And the missus will love you a LOT @ 12% body fat.
She might even chase you around the house a bit.

And that is strong motivation to keep the diet going clean.

True that.
It may be shallow but I remember taking my top off at the beach after the first cycle. Nothing like motivation to keep eating clean.

+1 for that decision bro. You won't regret it. Remember becoming a monster is a process. And you just took a great first step.

Nate