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17 Jul 2015 18:25 #188064 by BIGLEN
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Hey guys

I'm a new poster in fact at 42 years old, I've never posted before and be gentle as I'm not used to the protocols :P . I'm looking to do what most of us want that is to keep my hard earned gains whilst cutting (if lucky maybe grow some)

I'm currently weighing 118kg with a 18% BF

i would really appreciate your opinions on my current cycle ( started 2 months ago)which is;


I'm running RWC Tren and alpha Masterone and testorapid every second day and am taking one proviron and femera every evening as im prone to nipple sensitivity.
I've also just started GH at 2IU with morning and evening doses.

diet is carb cycling and pretty clean!

So let me know what you guys think ;)

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17 Jul 2015 19:08 #188066 by Furk
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Hey mate, welcome to the forum, hope you learn some, I'm sure you will! Tons of info floating around. :)

First, for effective carb cycling you need to align your training regime, is it sorted?
Maybe post the dosages you are running?
I'm not familiar with testorapid, care to elaborate?

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17 Jul 2015 19:54 #188068 by BIGLEN
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Hey Bud

there's so much info here cant wait.

training is sorted,,, i hope ;)

Testo rapid is actually test prop

my doses are 100mg of each EOD and letrozole 2,5mg and proviron 25mg and GH is 2iu x 2 a day.

Tx a mil bud

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17 Jul 2015 21:57 #188069 by Furk
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Okie dokes. So the tren is acetate right? Pinning 300mg EOD must suck. You are certainly on the right gear for a cut, not familiar with the brands though, hopefully others can advise on the dosages.

Do you have a history of steroid use?

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17 Jul 2015 22:22 - 17 Jul 2015 22:42 #188070 by Oupa
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Welcome big man.

Solid cycle. Pinning 3ml EOD is perfect as you want to keep your blood plasma levels stable. However i like to pin my tren A daily @ 50mg - 80mg but then i add cabaser @ 0.5mg e3d.

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You sure its RWC and not RWR Tren?
What brand is your GH?
Although you are using letro, are you using anything else for possible prolactin sides?
How long have you been using the tren A? more than 8 weeks?
Where is your HCG weekly dosages?
Whats your previous cycle history?
How long have you been training?
Whats your length?
Any health conditions?
Injuries?
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17 Jul 2015 22:25 #188071 by Nate40
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Another 42 year old!! Welcome my bro.
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17 Jul 2015 23:13 #188072 by BIGLEN
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Hi Oupa

thanks for your help.

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You sure its RWC and not RWR Tren? you are correct RWR typo :silly:
What brand is your GH? Nomad
Although you are using letro, are you using anything else for possible prolactin sides?
Only the proviron 1 tab daily
How long have you been using the tren A? more than 8 weeks? I was using equi for more than 8 weeks substituted it with the tren 2 weeks ago
Where is your HCG weekly dosages? i normally only use hcg as PCT
Whats your previous cycle history? lots of dabbling and trusting gym mates never taken it properly though ,,trying now.
How long have you been training? all my life but very committed the last two years dropped from 133 kg with little muscle to now 118 with about 18%bf
Whats your length? 1,84m
Any health conditions? good health
Injuries? torn and repaired left bicep , right 2/3 partial pec tear wasnt repaired in time though :sick:


thanks again for your assistance Oupa

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17 Jul 2015 23:14 - 17 Jul 2015 23:20 #188073 by BIGLEN
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Tx Nate40 and Furk!

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17 Jul 2015 23:37 #188074 by Furk
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Tren and equi are 2 different beasts. First time tren user? You can totally manage a recomp on that gear and with your stats.
What Oupa is insinuating with the HCG, is that if you start it mid cycle, you don't need to do it in PCT. Testes have less time not producing anything. ;)

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17 Jul 2015 23:44 - 17 Jul 2015 23:45 #188075 by BIGLEN
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@Furk i was using Equi to help with repairing shoulder joints etc that were feeling a bit ground down during the winter months now trying to dry out and shred for summer. not the first time on Tren just find it makes me feel very tight in the joints but really need its fat burning properties! :cheer:

what do you and @Oupa recommend for HCG dosage and timing?

ps after reading a lot of the topics and info on this forum my knowledge is very limited :pinch: so your guidance is most appreciated guys!!

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17 Jul 2015 23:48 #188076 by Oupa
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Equipose at 8 weeks is a total waist of money. You need 12 to 14 weeks.

We will chat in the morning brother and sort your shit out. Stay on your cycle as is also the GH. 2iu Nomand is not the same quality as pharma GH. 3iu nomand should be around the same as 2iu pharma.
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17 Jul 2015 23:50 #188077 by Oupa
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At your age 42, HCG 500iu to 750iu per week. Split in 2 shots per week

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18 Jul 2015 05:27 #188079 by BIGLEN
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Oh anf i forgot to tell you Oupa that i take one Ketotefin daily as well :unsure:

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18 Jul 2015 08:12 - 18 Jul 2015 08:14 #188080 by Rhino
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2.5mg of letro daily is a lot Bud. I don't think you need half that amount. It's going to make you feel like SHIT!

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18 Jul 2015 10:10 #188085 by Furk
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BIGLEN wrote: Oh anf i forgot to tell you Oupa that i take one Ketotefin daily as well :unsure:

Out of allergies? You didn't mention clenbuterol or salbutamol...

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18 Jul 2015 11:44 #188086 by Oupa
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I agree with Rhino... that letro is a high dose bud. Aslo Furk has a point, are you on clen?

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18 Jul 2015 14:03 - 18 Jul 2015 14:04 #188089 by BIGLEN
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Hey Guys

yes using clen 1 tab daily 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and I'll have the Letro dose

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18 Jul 2015 14:27 - 18 Jul 2015 14:27 #188091 by Oupa
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18 Jul 2015 14:27 #188092 by Furk
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BIGLEN wrote: Hey Guys

yes using clen 1 tab daily 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and I'll have the Letro dose

The story comes out in small parts. Are you in RSA? How did you even get ketotifen, or is it UG? If from a pharmacy, check the expiry date.

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18 Jul 2015 14:29 - 18 Jul 2015 14:30 #188093 by Oupa
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Walking on ice with the ketotifen question Furk "asking for sources"

rephrase bud ;)
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18 Jul 2015 14:52 #188094 by Furk
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Oupa wrote: Walking on ice with the ketotifen question Furk "asking for sources"

rephrase bud ;)


Not asking for sources, I use Diphenhydramine myself. Much cheaper IMO. As I understand it's not available in RSA anymore, so just advising our friend not to use old (and ineffective) stock. Apologies if it was interpreted wrong. Know the rules, especially this one. :)

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18 Jul 2015 15:39 #188095 by BIGLEN
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My apologies for making you guys drag it out of me but i really do appreciate the help and understanding!!

the keto is from axio and my understanding was that it extends the effectiveness of clen.

Oupa tx for the link should i start now or start applying after a week off ?

ps i am from SA which is so sad after the rugga today! :(

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18 Jul 2015 17:09 #188096 by Furk
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Yeah, suspected the ketotifen to be underground, no worries then mate. It doesn't "extend effectiveness", it up regulates the area clen works on, making it possible to use clen for longer, and supposedly more effective in it's action. If you need more info, use the search engine and click the thread posted by Pyroclasm.

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18 Jul 2015 17:34 #188098 by BIGLEN
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awesome thanks guys :)

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19 Jul 2015 08:37 #188115 by BIGLEN
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How long do you guys think i can run this for and what do you recommend for PCT?

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