Sappies First Cycle + Cycle log

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26 Jul 2015 12:33 #188372 by sappies
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Hey Guys

I will be starting my first steroid cycle tomorrow after thinking and contemplating for a few years :).

My stats:
19 years old
185cm
97kg
BF 15%
3 years training experience
Training 5x a week

My History:
I was always a bit on the heavy side during my youth and one day I said enough is enough and I started training and getting my diet in check. In 9 months I lost 20kg and I weighed 74kg at the same height exactly 3 years ago.
I then started doing weight training. I have been killing it every day since then and I'm constantly striving to be better, stronger and bigger.
I have no anabolic experience but I have used Clenbuterol 2 years back and Clen + Yohim last year following the guidelines on the site with great success.

Goals:
To break the 100kg barrier and gaining the least amount of fat (will post diet too) and improving my physique.


My cycle will be as follows and I'm keeping it as basic as possible:

PGW Testen 300: 10 weeks (600mg per week)

And I will probably add LP Winstrol for the bridge before my PCT.

I also have LP Letrozole on hand incase of any gyno issues.

PCT 2 will be followed.

Few other notes:
My main concern is acne.
I'm currently using Tetralysal @600mg a day splitted in 2 doses, I'm trying to clear up a few spots on my face but it's very mild.

Will it be fine if I run Tetralysal throughout my cycle to help control acne??

Also in regards with pinning:

Can I pin glute,glute,shoulder,shoulder etc..?
Or can I just stick with the glutes.

I would appreciate any suggestions or advise and I will do a weekly update of my progress :)

Thanks in regards

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28 Jul 2015 19:37 #188447 by sappies
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Thanks in advance lol

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28 Jul 2015 20:14 #188452 by Oupiel
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19 hey - You are looking for Sh1t with binoculars!!!!
You are too young to be running steroids.

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28 Jul 2015 20:34 #188453 by sappies
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I am aware of the dangers sir and I didn't decide overnight. That's why I joined this forum to ensure that I atleast do it the right way and not like the norm of my age.

My age is the main reason I'm making my cycle as basic as possible.

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28 Jul 2015 20:57 #188454 by Oupiel
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Yeah, didn't think that would work.

Before you go, go get blood tests done to establish your natural baseline.
That way when you're done, you can compare and make sure you're back to baseline.

What are you planning to use for liver support with the Winstrol bridge?

You tell us what the effects & side effects of Tetralysal are?

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28 Jul 2015 21:53 #188458 by Oupiel
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Also meant to mention, your BF% is a little high at 15%.
Look to get that down to 12%

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28 Jul 2015 22:29 #188462 by Oupa
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15% at 19y

He only needs to fart to get to 13%.

Advantages of being young :D
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28 Jul 2015 22:38 #188465 by Hormonas
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Unfortunately if you have a few spots now, your skin should get pretty messy when on cycle. Unfortunately that's the way it is. My neck and back break out if I'm not careful and if I don't take zinc and wash regularly. Tetralysal will help but take zinc tablets and use zinc creams and wash your body with dishwashing liquid - it'll help with the greasy skin.

You can pin everywhere, glute glute shoulder shoulder lat lat quad quad, it doesn't matter. Just do whatever you feel like doing because you'll end up using steroids again and you'll end up using those sites again so you might as well open them up for future use.
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28 Jul 2015 23:23 #188468 by Furk
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Hey Sappies, I take it you have your gear already? Are you accustomed to injections? Test En is usually a bother to new users. Maybe you won't mind the supposed pain, just my thoughts.

Your tall so the extra mass will look good, but visually might seem to come slow. Don't be discouraged and gorge yourself. Stick with your game plan.

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28 Jul 2015 23:36 #188469 by Hormonas
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Furk wrote: Your tall so the extra mass will look good, but visually might seem to come slow. Don't be discouraged and gorge yourself. Stick with your game plan.


I second this advice. You're a tall guy so you're going to look like you're growing a lot slower and that's perfectly normal. Don't ramp up the dosages too quickly because you'll just be running into side effects when you could have been growing from the original dosage. It's going to be tempting because when you expect steroid gains you think massive changes but for a taller guy, that's just not the reality of it but the gains will come!

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28 Jul 2015 23:46 #188470 by sappies
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Thanks for the response guys :)

Ok to answer a few of the questions;)

I will be using ONE cycle support during my bridge with Winstrol so it contains the necessary liver support ingrediants.

My post took a while to publish so I started yesterday with my first shot in the glute and the pain is minimal but I don't mind pain lol.

I'll look at getting bloods done to make sure everything checks out.

And I'll definitely add zinc tablets to my skin regimen and I'm also using differin gel at night so I'll see in a few weeks time how I respond :)

I'm looking forward to the progress and I got this far on my own and with what God gave me so I can use this to my advantage.

I'll post my diet tomorrow just to check if it all works out but I've been following it for a while and it's working nicely :)

Also I'm fortunate to be a mesomorph so losing fat and gaining weight comes easily to me.

Just to add I already felt more euphoric today;)
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28 Jul 2015 23:53 #188471 by sappies
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Thanks guys and I'll stick to the plan and make the most of my first cycle. Slow and steady is key for me and also keeping my gains post cycle is crucial so I'm after quality and not quantity
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29 Jul 2015 12:12 #188482 by Nate40
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Keep it up bro!
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Today I will do what I never thought possible!
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29 Jul 2015 14:52 #188485 by sappies
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Ok here's my workout day diet:

Meal 1:
30g Nutritech Whey
5 egg whites
100g Oats

Meal 2:
150g cooked chicken breast
200g Brown Rice

Meal 3:
150g cooked chicken breast
150g brown rice
100g broccoli

Meal 4:
150g chicken breast
150g brown rice
1/2 Avo

1 Banana Pre-workout

SSN Cytoguard during workout

PWO:
30g Nutritech Whey
30g BSSA Dextrose

Meal 5:
200g chicken breast
150g Brown rice
100g Broccoli

Meal 6:
150g chicken breast
1 Avo

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29 Jul 2015 14:54 #188486 by sappies
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On my non workout days I cut a bit back on my carbs.

The diet is roughly estimated on 3300-3500 calories a day which due to my activity level is what I need to be in a calorie surplus but not too much.

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29 Jul 2015 14:56 #188487 by sappies
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All comments are welcome and please critique and give suggestions, I want this cycle to be optimal.

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31 Jul 2015 16:15 #188567 by sappies
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Ok so a quick update :)

Had my second pin last night and it went even smoother,no pain today which is still surprising considering the fact that I have virgin muscle.

I also feel more pumped in the gym but it's probably just me because it's still a while before the test kicks in.

Can someone also just verify my diet and critique on it :) I'd appreciate it.

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31 Jul 2015 17:14 #188569 by Furk
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Hi mate. My points as follows:

ONE cycle support is a really good product composition wise, happy you got hold of it.

Cytoguard is a really nice product, but don't think supplement will make you, have faith in your diet and training. Cytoguard should be the first thing you ditch if you downsize (wallet wise).

Euphoric is not the right word I'm guessing, unless you took LSD. But I get your meaning, your mood is elevated.

Glad the injections are smooth. Like I said earlier, enanthanate is supposed to sting. Happy for you.

Diet looks strict, cookies cut bodybuilding diet to me. No problem. Don't be afraid to tweak for rest days, like you mentioned about omitting carbs. But also try replacing some staples, like the chicken. Don't look down on beef cause it's not "clean" enough, benefits are many. An imperfect diet you can adhere to is better than a perfect diet you can't.

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01 Aug 2015 15:11 #188587 by Furk
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Edit : "cookie-cutter" bodybuilding diet

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03 Aug 2015 20:18 #188655 by sappies
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Thanks for the input furk :)

Ok so I had my third injection today and I pinned in the shoulder and no pain thus far.

After one week the only noticeable effects I notice is that I get massive pumps in the gym and a few people have said that I look more swole to them.

I also feel like I'm leaning out but this is largely due to my diet.

I'll also add in a bit of extra lean mince and steak just to vary my protein sources because a kg of chicken a day can get quite boring lol.

One effect that I notice is that I get every now and then pins and needles all over my body and it's quite ticklish, my multi vitamin does have niacin in so maybe because of the increase in bloodflow I get more pronounced effects from the niacin.

I'll keep you guys posted and feel free to comment :)

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03 Aug 2015 20:29 #188657 by Furk
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Yeah I've heard that of niacin,won't be surprised if it is.

If you're already bigger then the testen works faster than I thought, could swear you're on orals it's that fast. But responding well to sole test shows lots of promise then. Big ups on the progress mate.

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10 Aug 2015 19:42 #188872 by sappies
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Hey guys

Ok so clumsy me dropped the vial while I was busy with the vial and it cracked a bit so I drawed it all out and injected myself with 1 ml but the rest I left in a syringe.

Is it okay to leave it in the syringe for later use?
Are there any risks or is it best to just throw it away?

I'm pissed as hell now :/

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10 Aug 2015 19:46 #188873 by sappies
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But on the positive side :)

I'm now at the two week mark and I already notice a big change in endurance and recovery.

Also getting massive pumps in the gym and I'm still nicely on point with my diet :)

Looking forward to the weeks ahead of me

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10 Aug 2015 23:45 #188877 by Furk
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sappies wrote: Hey guys

Ok so clumsy me dropped the vial while I was busy with the vial and it cracked a bit so I drawed it all out and injected myself with 1 ml but the rest I left in a syringe.

Is it okay to leave it in the syringe for later use?
Are there any risks or is it best to just throw it away?

I'm pissed as hell now :/

Well the danger here is infection. If you *have* to keep it in the syringe better cap it with a capped needle. Maybe split the oil with your pinning doses in different vials and cap them. Think it's called "lock-n-load".

Isn't it possible to get empty vials? Perhaps a nursing/ medical supply store, doubt pharmacies will stock.

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11 Aug 2015 00:19 #188878 by Furk
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Correction: split the oil with your pinning doses in different syringes..

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