Cycle Log

Alrighty.

Since I feel that I have a tendency to kill or rail other threads (sorry),
I figured I would try keep a rough account of my personal experiences.
This is not a how to, but anything I learn or experience along the way or change will hopefully be noted and in time perhaps help someone else.
I hope that some of the more experienced posters will give their input and suggestions as I go along.

This is not me telling you how my gains are or how much more I'm lifting through the cycle, but rather the smaller details
that come with the experience.
Lets call it a written account, because a diary just sounds wrong.

Preface:
Previously to this I have only played with Oral cycles.
Stats before starting:
Age: 28
Weight 94kg
Bf% 12-14
Height 6'3

Cycle is based on the beginners cycle listed, but with no front load.
First time using a proper Test cycle and I wanted to see everything as it happened, even if that means slowly.
HCG on cycle, Var bridge and Clomid/Nolva PCT as listed in the sample Cycles.
Letro drops on hand, using 2 drops eod currently.

Picked up my supplies on the 31st Aug, went with PGW since it has a good rep here. Ancillary products are from dischem.
Noted: Its not the tellers that give you odd looks when purchasing needles, swabs and syringes, but the older woman in front of you
who looks like she has spent her retirement funds on botox.




Sept 1 (Happy Spring day, to my left ass cheek).

Well, you have bought everything, you have read as much as you can and watched as many videos as you could.
Not backing out now, even if you don't like the idea of jabbing yourself.
Re watching the 'how to' video for IM procedures, just in case, feeling equal parts nervous anxious and excited.

Got everything layed out neatly on the basin side, somewhat proud of my little organisation.
(Quick ponder if other recreational users such as IV drugs have the same routine or standards.)
Wash hands 3 times (not OCD, just making sure) Get the syringe out, attache the needle and check movement.
(For a second it actually feels like I am experienced at this).
Swab top of vial wait to dry,insert needle, push air in, draw out solution. Pretty good so far.
Withdraw the needle, pull back plunger to draw in all the solution and swap out to a fresh needle.
Drop trousers (shit, some Barry White would have been good right about now), swap ass cheek and wait for it to dry.
Whilst waiting for the alcohol to dry, I get the solution back into the new needle and the air back out.
(standing in your bathroom with your pants off, tapping bubbles out of a Syringe....mom would be proud).

Everything set, everything hygienic, correct spot marked.
Syringe in one hand, the other tensioning the skin a little bit, and my hand starts shaking a bit.
(Dammit, you are this far in, suck it up and take it in the ass like a man!)
Deep breath and dart that little fucker in.
Small moment of clarity, yup, that's right. You just broke your pin-ginity.
Draw back plunger, all clear. Slowly push down, wait and then remove.
Small blood spot as expected, heart rate elevated, nerves and anxiety have peaked.

Re-swap area then give it a small massage.
Take a seat for a minute and get my head around everything.
This Journey has started, it will get easier from here.

Cont Later, need to go work.
Any and all feedback appreciated, hopefully this counts as the Right section to Post in.

Nicely summarized bro. Very cool.

Pinning don't get easier for me 6 months later and I still get elevated heart rate and start to sweat. Everytime I see the 37 mm needle I start to feel the pain. Guess I will stay a baby.

Just push the needle in slowly. No need to stab yourself in the ass like a dart hitting a balloon.

Triton wrote: Pinning don't get easier for me 6 months later and I still get elevated heart rate and start to sweat. Everytime I see the 37 mm needle I start to feel the pain. Guess I will stay a baby.

Cannot say that I'm fond of it, but getting better.

Onwards!:

So Pin-ginity broken and my ass feeling uncomfortable for the next 3 days (guess I have a sensitive ass, thanks PiP fairy), It rolls around to day 4 and time for the next round.

Feeling better since I have now spent the last few days becoming a youtube educated expert on IM protocols, I once more lay out my kit and wash the my hands a few times.
Re-read the guide listed here and as before I am now standing with the syringe and needle in My hand, like a pen as described in the guide.
I take a breath in and slide it in....feels better than last time actually.
Aspirate (thanks youtube), and send it.
Waiting a few seconds for the oil to disperse and then I pull out.

That's when shit goes south.
I noticeably move the angle of my hand while withdrawing the needle and feel like I have just fucked up.
(one guess as to whether or not I did ).
As the point of the needle exits a nice bit of blood comes out and forms to be heavy enough to send a droplet to the ground.
(Shit, the girlfriend likes that carpet).
Grab a swab and press until the bleed stops and everything seems fine for the time being.

The bruise started to form within the hour and my ass was more tender than that time at catholic camp.
(sorry to anyone who takes offense to the multiple below the belt pokes there, its not true, just a joke)
Long story short, I hit a vessel on the way out, ass was sore and basically had to just wait it out and avoid that side. No complications and the bruise is all but gone.

What I did learn from this (besides that based off my shit handwriting, I should not have held anything like a pen, and it was not stable enough for me) is that reversing my grip and pointing the needle down with my thumb on the plunger, works better for me. It keeps my more stable and I can still make sure I have not hit blood.

One lesson at a time.
Will continue as and when I can.

Pyroclasm wrote: Just push the needle in slowly. No need to stab yourself in the ass like a dart hitting a balloon.

I have that down now thankfully.
Guess nerves and inexperience contribute .

What also helped for me is using 21 gauge needles the initial penetration through the skin is worse but there are no irritation the next day. With 23 gauge and upwards I have muscle pain the next day.

Triton wrote: What also helped for me is using 21 gauge needles the initial penetration through the skin is worse but there are no irritation the next day. With 23 gauge and upwards I have muscle pain the next day.

Interesting - I assume you still inject very slowly despite being able to inject faster with the bigger needle? Or do you just go as fast as the needle allows?

Thats interesting, as I am currently using 21g (recommended by the same guy that suggesting reversing my grip) and was actually thinking 23g may have been better.

But alas, I have 100 21g now and really cant be bothered.

Well you know what they say. Sometimes bigger is better.
Or maybe that's just what the chick tells me.

Nate40 wrote: Well you know what they say. Sometimes bigger is better.
Or maybe that's just what the chick tells me.

something something, how you use it that.....Well lets be honest, if it wasn't about size, half of us wouldn't be here

So, entering the 4th week and it at least seems that I have the IM protocols down to a point of minimal discomfort and am much more comfortable with the whole process.

Only thing that I did do wrong on one pin was not let the needle sit in for a bit after injecting and had a drop of oil come out after withdrawing the needle too quickly, (muh gainz!? )

Since Not having a frontload and understanding that T-Cyp has a longer time frame, I have started since week 3 to see and feel some changes. Looking a touch thicker as well having Frankenstein's monster for a penis.
(Seriously, guys on higher doses must have some insane self control not to start dry humping people and or things during the day :ohmy: )
Long story short (no double meaning intended), I think I have broken my girlfriend.

Trying to keep as much refined sugars and sweet crap,(have had family from overseas and there has been no shortage of such), out of my diet.

Other than that, it seems that I am settling into the whole process.
Looking forward to this 4th week as from what I have read on various posts an forums, this seems to be when people most notice the effects.
(not sure on this, but keen to see as part of the whole process).

Keep going bro and stay strong!
Nate

Nate40 wrote: Keep going bro and stay strong!
Nate

Thanks Nate, appreciate it.


Next Chapter in the adventure: My itchy damn nipples.

You ever have one of those days when everything just seems to get on your tits.
Where everyone feels like they are just trying to twist your teets.
Where you feel like you are on the set of Twin Peaks, despite your breast intentions.
...alright, I'm running out of material here, feel free to insert your own (and no, that's not what she said).

So Midweek I was slightly more irritable and my nipples decided they would get a less than pleasant sensation of itchy/tingly.
Up until this point I had been running two drops Letro Eod and this clearly was not enough.
I know the recommend starting point is 3 drops, but I also wanted to see how I reacted, since this is my first 'real' cycle.
Upped the letro to 5 drops a day, then 4 and now back down to 3 eod, will keep an eye out and adjust as necessary.
Thankfully I can always do a quick search on the forum and see what is recommended and what others have experienced. Glad to have the Letro-Liquid on hand, works pretty quickly and is convenient opposed to breaking up tabs.

Thanks to all those who have posted their advice and experience on the forums, I'm sure it has helped countless other people.

And soon we start the on Cycle HCG. Pin cushion mode activate!

Borsboudjies
Woolly Mammaries
Love bumps
Worsrolletjies
Confucius says: "A life without friends is like boobs without nipples- pointless."
What kind of bees produce milk? Boo-bees.

Did you have a question? :S

That post was most titillating, thanks Pyro.

No real question, just trying to keep abreast of my own posts.

The quickest way to make 2kg of fat look good, is to put a nipple on it.

Short update (tits aside, much like a tannie sky-diving nude).
HCG is so much easier to use than IM, and that slin needle is a pleasure since you feel nothing, was very impressed.

All jokes affront, HCG really doesn't get on your tits like everyone says it will. I don't feel a thing when I inject HCG.
Fist bump bump! C what I did there?

Pyroclasm wrote: I don't feel a thing when I inject HCG.

Except for being super horney the following day or two :evil:

Pyroclasm wrote: All jokes affront, HCG really doesn't get on your tits like everyone says it will. I don't feel a thing when I inject HCG.
Fist bump bump! C what I did there?

Except for being super horney the following day or two :evil:

Nothing so far to be honest, only have done 1 injection so far and if anything I seem to have slowed down on the last day or so.
Interestingly enough as well, is that in 5 weeks I have only gained 1kg (admittedly I have not been eating in excess, cos I'm not looking to bulk right now).
I certainly look better, feel better and recover quicker, but so far nothing like the 7kg type of gains some people have seen.
Guess its just part of the way my body reacts and this whole process is a learning curve after all.

Alrighty then, been a while since, but this post is more question than update.

Apologies for any lack of progress, but having the flu and dealing with funerals and kak, have taken up some time, both literally and mentally.

So 6+ weeks in and I personally do not feel/see what I expected and I would appreciate some feedback.
I was honestly expecting to add a fair bit more size than I have and possibly more weight gain.
So far I have only gained about 1kg and look a tiny bit leaner (body composition changes have not slipped my mind, just stating what I have experienced so far).
I have tried increasing and lowering my caloric intake and not seen much changes, maybe I'm just being too critical?

Lastly, is it possible in anyone's opinion, that you simply do not react to, or rather have a higher tolerance for Test than say other chems?
I personally feel that I had a better reaction to running tbol and provi than the straight up test.
I am not bloating or feeling any aromatizing/nipple issues other than what I had in the previous post.
I have lowered letro to 1 drop eod and still have no sides.

Sorry for the less than structured writing today, besides Monday I still have a thick head (more so than normal) with flu. And maybe its just being sick that has thrown me off.

Thanks in advance.

Okay, so I have been on track since the last post, and can certainly say that I was in a slump due to being sick (landed up with tracheitis), so my body did not appreciate having to fight off infection, then be on antibiotics and quaterzone which makes me moody.

Basically, once the infection cleared up I bounced back quickly and have been following through nicely and am moving on to my bridge shortly. I will be running Var this time as I have left over.

Story time resumes:
So, I'm not going to admit in any form, that I liked a sharp cylindrical object being inserted into my buttocks, but there is a certain degree of satisfaction afterwards, knowing that you are being topped up so to speak.

In retrospect, I can honestly say that I have felt great being on.
I have not bloated or had much sides save for itchy tits a couple of times, and this was cleared by no more than 2-3 drops letro, so I am happy with my reaction and looking forward to future use.
Mood has also been great. I have just been more pleasant, outgoing and calm than regular. I can probably chalk some of it down to psychosomatic, but I still stand by it.

Its a nice feeling to see how much better I have become with injecting and have not had a single bruise or any notable PiP since my one mishap right from the start. Changin my grip, literally saved my arse

HCG is on track and everything's function seems good. (probably going to miss the Frankenstein-dick to an extent tbh, but se la vie). But I now know what Oupa meant about being horny after HCG....good lord.

I will weigh myself and give a bit better feedback as I taper off, and see where I land up. But after adjusting to a few new things in life, and really enjoying the overall feeling of well-being, I am already starting to plan my next run for next year

Thanks to all who have helped and guided (even via responses in other threads with similar issues).
Without the information I would have been taking many more chances and am glad that I took the time to do things right.

Later all.