1st Deca Cycle Discussion

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02 Oct 2015 08:53 #191171 by dryden
1st Deca Cycle Discussion was created by dryden
Good day

Let's cover the basics:

34 years old
102 kgs
1.84m
7 years training
4.5 previous cycles. Last one was aborted in May after 6 weeks due to injury. All cycles were only dbol/test/pct as per the beginner sample cycle taken from this site. Real basic stuff but I'm in it for the long game. Last 2 cycles the test was upped to 600mg/week and ultimately 750mg/week.

Busy dieting down to sub 100 kgs which would put my bf in the mid-low teens. No Idea what actual bf is but abs are just beginning to become visible so I'm getting there. I used to have to do a shit ton of cardio to cut down but the diet's been a whole lot better the last month or 2 and in another month or so and I'll be good to go. Which brings us to:

I plan on running the intermediate cycle as per this site which consists of the following:

Cycle:
day 1-20: dbol kicker @ 50mg/day
day 1-99: test @ 600mg/week
day 1-85: deca @ 525/week
day 110-142: winstrol @ 30mg/day
day 17-85: hcg @ 250iu/week
3 drops letro twice a week from day 1 until I bridge.

PCT:
day 145-150: Clomid @ 100mg/day
day 152-181: Aromasin @ 20mg/day
day 152-181: Nolva @ 20mg/day

Regarding the on-cycle hcg. Should I not take until I hit the bridge?

Also if I'm taking hcg on-cycle I surely don't need it during pct? Why does the sample have it in both?

In a similar thread it was explained that Aromasin should be taken before Clomid. This sample cycle contradicts that. Can I run the PCT as is or change it and if so, to what order?

I have 8 Cabaser tabs which gives me 16 doses if I split them. Is this enough for this cycle and do I take it regardless or do I wait for sides to appear?

I've always just used milk thistle and Essentiale during my test only cycles. Anything else I need to add considering it's getting just amped a little bit?

Any other advice? I've basically been doing the beginner cycle once a year since 2011 and I feel it's time to try new things.

thanks guys

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02 Oct 2015 09:58 - 02 Oct 2015 10:00 #191176 by Muscleaddict
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The cycle looks pretty well thought out. You do not need HCG during PCT if you use it on cycle. But you aren't using the HCG for long enough and it should be at 250iu twice a week. You'll be off it for 2 months when you start PCT which is not ideal. You can take a month off the HCG but run it for a month before PCT.

The main purpose of the 20mg/day aromasin in PCT 3 is to deal with the aromatisation caused by the HCG which will affect natural test production. So adust accordingly if you aren't using HCG in PCT. There will still be estrogen to control due to the SERMs, but 20mg aromasin EOD is sufficient.

With that amount of cabaser I would start it 4 weeks into the cycle, take 0.5mg E5D and run it a few weeks longer than deca.
Last edit: 02 Oct 2015 10:00 by Muscleaddict.

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