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26 Oct 2015 14:30 #192162 by JHHannes
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Good afternoon guys,

Ok, so ive started with my pct this morning. I know its a bit premature but I would like to discuss my 2nd cycle I'm planning because I want to start sourcing and paying. Im looking at the intermediate bulking cycle. My cycle history has been the beginner bulking cycle with a bridge of winstrol.

Age 28
Length 1.86m
Weight 98kg
Body fat between 10 and 12 percent

Proposed cycle
Testen 300 week 1-14 @ 600mg p/w
Deca 350 week 1-12@ 525mg p/w
Tbol Week 1-4 @ 40mg p/d
Winstrol Week 16-20 @ 40mg p/d
Hcg on cycle up to start of pct 3
Pct 3

I have a few questions, I see on the chart that you only pin once a week is that correct?
My source also suggested that I take proviron from week 5 up to start of pct.
Would this be a good cycle for me? " I know it differ from 1 person to the next"
Your input would be highly appreciated because without the members this is a very confusing world to us new guys!!!

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26 Oct 2015 19:34 - 26 Oct 2015 19:35 #192175 by Pyroclasm
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What is your ideal body?
Last edit: 26 Oct 2015 19:35 by Pyroclasm.

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26 Oct 2015 20:24 #192183 by Furk
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Super Saiyan bra.

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26 Oct 2015 22:07 #192190 by JHHannes
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Idealy like Sergi Constance but I do understand that boddies like that dont come overnight but I am willing to work hard for what I want, like I have been doing for the last 10 years in other aspects of my life! I got nothing for free so far. I dont sit around and wait for shit to happen! I get it done!

Lol more like Super Saiyan 3..

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27 Oct 2015 12:45 #192223 by JHHannes
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Any advice?

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27 Oct 2015 20:20 #192255 by JHHannes
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Pyro,Furk please give me something. As dit n kak idee is se my. Ek wil nie kak maak nie.

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27 Oct 2015 20:22 #192256 by Pyroclasm
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JHHannes wrote: Idealy like Sergi Constance but I do understand that boddies like that dont come overnight but I am willing to work hard for what I want, like I have been doing for the last 10 years in other aspects of my life! I got nothing for free so far. I dont sit around and wait for shit to happen! I get it done!

Lol more like Super Saiyan 3..


That is a good attitude! You are gonna need it to look like Sergi. ;) Nothing worth having comes easy- otherwise everybody would have it.

Your cycle is well structured. I am just not such a fan of Deca so early on. Consider that same cycle without the Deca, and leave the Deca as a smoking gun for later when you need it. Right now you don't need Deca to grow like crazy you need good diet and training.

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27 Oct 2015 20:35 #192259 by JHHannes
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Thanks Pyro, ok my mind is at ease now I will then do it like that, should I add in the proviron? What I've gathered from most of the threads is that it is a welcome add-on. Appologies for all the questions but I like to plan to the smallest detail. My training and diet is my number 1 priority, I know it is what either make or break you.

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27 Oct 2015 20:42 #192260 by Pyroclasm
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Not at all I like questions. It's the opposite of ignorance. ;) I don't rate Proviron at all. The only time I would even maybe a tiny amount consider using Proviron is with a DHT like Winstrol or Anavar to help free up the compound from SHBG. For the rest the benefits are just not worth the price. But! If you wipe your arse with R200 notes then there is no reason not to add it.

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27 Oct 2015 20:55 #192264 by JHHannes
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Lol, If only. Ok will defnitely keep it in mind. Without the deca will the testen300 still be pinned only once a week?

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27 Oct 2015 20:58 #192265 by Oupa
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Gaan vee jou gat af Pyro :)

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27 Oct 2015 21:15 #192267 by Oupa
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98kg, 1.86m @ 10% body fat, I would definitely throw in NPP @ 450mg PW.

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28 Oct 2015 10:20 #192279 by Furk
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Awe Hannes, apologies mate, don't always recheck threads I post in.

In concur with Pyro's opinions. I'm generally conservative when it comes to steroids so I would think it too early to use Deca. Although Oupa has a good point regarding your stats. What did your previous cycle consist of and were you happy with results? If you already have the Prov but not enough to dose 40mg the entire cycle, do it when you take the winny/bridge.

Also, shoot the Enanthate twice per week.

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28 Oct 2015 14:11 #192291 by JHHannes
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I did the beginners bulking cycle test cyp 250mg twice a week,dbol kickstart @40mg per day and a winny bridge @30mg per day. Im really happy with the results. Im doing pct 2 now. So obviously I should split the dosage then on the enanthate 300mg twice a week? I havent bought anything yet but I was budgeting for the deca so without the deca now the proviron is not such a longshot money wise.

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30 Oct 2015 21:45 #192402 by Pyroclasm
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Because of your low BF% you can go for Masteron Enanthate @450mg/week instead of Proviron.

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30 Oct 2015 21:46 #192403 by Oupa
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Pyroclasm wrote: Because of your low BF% you can go for Masteron Enanthate @450mg/week instead of Proviron.


Definitely a very good option

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