CaiN's Log

Hi guys,

I have been on here for some time and now that i started second cycle i thought i would say hi and share my experiences.

I am doing the following lean building stack:

500mg Test-E
200mg NPP
200mg Primobolan

Everything split equally into 2 shots a week for 12 weeks. I might add Winstrol from week 10 till just before pct at week 16.

My stats are:

Age: 31
Bodyfat: Somewhere under 10%
Weight: 82KG
Height: 1.76m

Diet:

1 Cup uncooked oats + Whey (40g protein).
600g chicken + 3 Cups Brown/White rice or potato split into 3 work meals.
Whey post workout + 5g creatine + 20g glucose powder.
200g Steak, Lean mince, Fish or 7 eggs ( 3 whole, 4 whites ) + 200g potato.

Will post progress photos as i can.

Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Sweet man, interesting compounds, will follow. Best of luck!

PS: You didn't mention ancillary drugs. Will you have something for the NNP?

Yeah, i have Arimidex on hand for estrogen which ill start a few weeks in at 0.25mg EOD.

The NPP should be shot at a maximum of E3D, so the protocol should be Mon, Thur, Sun, Wed, Sat, Tues, etc.

The Test E and Primo can be shot once a week, or you can try find a way to combine it into the E3D routine, problem is you have vials, so it could become complicated.

You will need bromocryptine (parlodel) or cabaser to combat any sides resulting from the NPP, even though keeping estrogen under control does have an effect in the way in which progesterone can raise it isn't a dead end, and progesterone can increase, hence having something to combat those side effects if import to keep on hand.

Maybe one other experienced guys can provide their inputs too? Muscle, Pyro, Oupa?

00pump wrote: The NPP should be shot at a maximum of E3D, so the protocol should be Mon, Thur, Sun, Wed, Sat, Tues, etc.

The Test E and Primo can be shot once a week, or you can try find a way to combine it into the E3D routine, problem is you have vials, so it could become complicated.

You will need bromocryptine (parlodel) or cabaser to combat any sides resulting from the NPP, even though keeping estrogen under control does have an effect in the way in which progesterone can raise it isn't a dead end, and progesterone can increase, hence having something to combat those side effects if import to keep on hand.

I agree with you 100% Pump and 2nd your post.

However with his current stats I would do 200mg - 300mg test, 350mg - 450mg NPP, 400mg - 500mg Primo, but that's me :whistle:

Agree on the dosages Oupa is suggesting- you won't see decent results from the current dosages but you will be shutdown just as hard as the higher dosages. Cain you have to control your prolactin when using Nandrolone (NPP) as high prolactin will murder your chances at a decent recovery after the cycle. To combat prolactin your can either use an anti-prolactin like cabasser, or you can keep your estrogen levels low. Prolactin can only be high in the presence of high estrogen levels. To keep your estrogen levels low you can use an AI like Arimidex, or Aromasin, or Letrozole.

Hi Oupa,

Yeah i kinda figured the 3ED so i shoot Wed PM and Sunday AM. I did this on my previous cycle and seemed to work at same dosages. Problem with that cycle it was one of those "switch compounds every four weeks" cycles which didn't really agree with me as i didn't react well to TrenE (Bad sleep etc).

1) 500mg Test a waste?
2) If i'm going to push up the NPP and Primo i will have to shorten the cycle to 8weeks.

I have Arimidex which i would have started week 2/3 and used whole cycle.

Last time i just had sensitive nipples and used it, 2 weeks later i was 100% again.

How do i know when i must use caber? I will have to get.

So many different views on this, some people seem to believe in high test and low other compounds. And others the other way around, very confusing

CaiNJHB wrote: Hi Oupa,


2) If i'm going to push up the NPP and Primo i will have to shorten the cycle to 8weeks. Primo less than 12 weeks is a waist of time.


How do i know when i must use caber? 0.5mg E5D starting off 2 weeks into your NPP schedule

Thanks Oupa. Will get me, just need to find it at a better price.