D-bol only cycle.

That's exactly what I'm saying complete ignorance and a I couldn't care what you say I'm doing it anyway.. so again go ahead and do what you want...

I've given my best. I'm getting out of here now. Good luck and keep logging well after PCT, that is the part we need on record.

Ciao ciao.

Okay I will quickly chip in. As far as I can tell, I have been polite and honest so I will keep it that way The guys on forums around the world get frustrated with people doing dbol only cycles for a few reasons. The most frustrating of those reasons is when a man thinks that HE will be the one to make and keep the gains out of however many million who have tried it. I know a lot of guys who have done dbol only cycles. Those guys keep maybe a kilo or two, max. And generally thats just because they are eating more post-cycle but as soon as they catch a stomach bug or something, those water gains disappear and you realize how little you've actually gained. I know a guy who gained 6kgs in 6 weeks on dbol, he was making a log online, he lost all of his gains after his PCT and then went onto the forum and claimed to have kept all of his gains to prove the haters wrong.

The gains you make on an oral only cycle just aren't worth the hassle or the money - or the arguments to prove to people why it is correct after it has been proven incorrect so many times. The people on this forum want to help, when you go against their advice, they wont want to help anymore and when you turn against one of them by calling them names or telling them that their advice isn't correct, you're going to unleash a pack of wolves. Thats what we are, steroids arent for the sheep, we want to be better than the natural guys or the guys doing the small oral only cycles - join us and do it properly next time.

Finish your cycle and see what you keep. If thats a kilo - great, if it is two, fantastic. If it is 6kgs well then youre a liar :lol: But if you lose it all, just be honest. And I'm talking about a month after PCT is finished. Then when you are ready to join us with the proper cycles, let us know and we will help you with that!

At the moment, my gut feeling is that you're going to be one of the guys to try and prove us all wrong by claiming that you've kept a lot meanwhile you haven't. Its a very depressing thing to see the weight dropping almost daily on the scale and denial often follows. Please prove me wrong :pinch:

Hi Hormonas

I actually want to say thank you (honestly) for speaking to me like a human being.

I probably am an idiot for starting a cycle like this but at least you have always been respectful regardless of my decisions. Most of the other guys just dug straight into me which really got my back up and hence the retaliation.

My first cycle was going to be Test E only but then I came across Layman's Guide to Steroids by Mick Hart and he recommends Dbol only as a first cycle! That changed my mind completely, its difficult to get proper info.

I will eat my humble pie and keep posting. I just hope some of the guys on here can just be a little bit less harsh in the future. I got my info from a bad source obviously and it's not my fault that alot of you guys are tired of the dbol only cycle.

Hope we can all look past harsh words and be mates in the future, where I will ask for the advice before placing my order.

Bert wrote: Layman's Guide to Steroids by Mick Hart

That is a very, very old school guide, if you want the best advice out there then listen to what people here have to say.

This place is not for sissies, but steroids aren't either and I suggest you toughen up and inject like the rest of us if you are serious about bodybuilding.

Bert wrote: I probably am an idiot for starting a cycle like this but at least you have always been respectful regardless of my decisions. Most of the other guys just dug straight into me which really got my back up and hence the retaliation.

Bro, if you're the type of person to get your back up and retaliate everytime someone says somehing you don't like maybe the steroids route isn't for you in the first place.

If there's one thing ive learned, its that this path is more than just drugs and weight. It's a personal journey that requires self awareness (emotional and physical) and a certain level of maturity.

If you aren't committed to holistic wellbeing, and don't recognise and respect the immense value of having access to the knowledge of experienced users like on this board then stick to mirror muscle training and creatine IMO.

Iron K.

Bert, why is it that you insist on sticking to DBOL only cycle. Everyone here has given you solid advice and tried to help you. Klim van jou perdjie af voor jy an die ander kant af moer...

Cool I understand that you don't want to inject, I myself had that same mentality. Each to their own, but listen to the guys here giving you advice!

But you are going to do it anyway, so like Oupa said you will be back asking for help when shit goes wrong..