Water retention and swollen ankles

I'm currently in my bridge of a test prop cycle. Cycle was meant to be 8 weeks but I extended it to 13 weeks. Cycle was as follows:

Week 1 - 4: Tbol 40mg ED
Week 1 - 13: Test Prop 120mg 3 x week (Sun, Tue, Thu)
Week 11 - 15: Winny 40mg ED
Proviron 50mg throughout
HCG from week 3, 250iu 2 x week

Last prop pin was 12 days ago.

I've been experiencing terrible water retention for about the last 2 week. My ankles swell up by around 10am once I've put enough water into my body and stay that way all day. I also don't pee as much as I normally do past this 10am threshold. This has been going on for around 2 weeks. No itchy nipples, no change in BP.

I started 0,5mg A'dex EOD when this started and have changed to 0,5mg ED for the past 3 days with no change. A'dex is Astra Zenica.

Any suggestions? Nipples are fine but the ankle swelling is really uncomfortable and looks terrible (to me at least). As the day progresses I can feel the skin at the bottom of my legs tingling and getting sore

It's definitely an imbalance of estrogen in your system (happens during your bridge). Added takes a while to kick in so give it another week. Your dosage is too high at the moment cause once the Arimidex kicks in it's gonna kick you like a giraffe! If you are set at a high dosage then at most keep it at 0.5mg three times a week but I would suggest twice a week.

So drop down to three times a week at same dose?

PCT starts this weekend, do I just keep taking the A'dex through PCT until the water retention stops?

Use three times a week and run with Clomid too, then drop it when you start Nolvadex. When do you/have you used HCG?

250iu HCG twice a week from week 3 up to PCT. I do however think my current batch may have lost efficacy, it's a bit older than 4 weeks.

The HCG is fine. Using HCG during your bridge normally results in some estrogen side effects. It's just par for the course so don't stress about it. It will likely affect your mood too but you are lucky you didn't get gyno.

Yeah nips are fine, I always keep a very watchful eye on them as they do get a bit "soft" looking when I start adding size. Once I lean out they are perfect with no residual tissue, so I always keep an eye on them while bulking.

Should I run the Clomid for 14 days @ 50mg instead of 100mg for 7 days to give myself an every week to try stabilise the estrogen levels before I start Nolva?

Yes it is better to run it like that!

Feet up, above your head. Get some slow-k (potassium chloride), you may need a diuretic for 5 to 7 days, or if you have a juicer bang loads of carrots in there and drink that. Your kidneys are struggling to get rid of all the water, so you need to increase your water take by double to force the kidneys to start flushing the water out. And during this process look at getting your estrogen under control.

00pump wrote: Feet up, above your head. Get some slow-k (potassium chloride), you may need a diuretic for 5 to 7 days, or if you have a juicer bang loads of carrots in there and drink that. Your kidneys are struggling to get rid of all the water, so you need to increase your water take by double to force the kidneys to start flushing the water out. And during this process look at getting your estrogen under control.

So your kidneys are struggling to get rid of the excess water your body is holding, so you drink more water to get your kidneys to get rid of the excess water which it is struggling to get rid of?

How does this work exactly? It almost sounds counterproductive. I am genuinely curious and not trying to be a dick

Only thing I can think of is that you are not drinking enough water so your body is trying to store / retain as much water as possible for survival purposes (not sure when it will get more water)?

PsyCLown wrote:

00pump wrote: Feet up, above your head. Get some slow-k (potassium chloride), you may need a diuretic for 5 to 7 days, or if you have a juicer bang loads of carrots in there and drink that. Your kidneys are struggling to get rid of all the water, so you need to increase your water take by double to force the kidneys to start flushing the water out. And during this process look at getting your estrogen under control.

So your kidneys are struggling to get rid of the excess water your body is holding, so you drink more water to get your kidneys to get rid of the excess water which it is struggling to get rid of?

How does this work exactly? It almost sounds counterproductive. I am genuinely curious and not trying to be a dick

Only thing I can think of is that you are not drinking enough water so your body is trying to store / retain as much water as possible for survival purposes (not sure when it will get more water)?

5-6L a day not enough? I've never had this issue, so I think it's related to elevated estrogen as everyone seems to agree with.

@ Pump, I'll run a diuretic over the weekend and keep going with the A'dex. I'll report back once I notice any change

PsyCLown wrote:

00pump wrote: Feet up, above your head. Get some slow-k (potassium chloride), you may need a diuretic for 5 to 7 days, or if you have a juicer bang loads of carrots in there and drink that. Your kidneys are struggling to get rid of all the water, so you need to increase your water take by double to force the kidneys to start flushing the water out. And during this process look at getting your estrogen under control.

So your kidneys are struggling to get rid of the excess water your body is holding, so you drink more water to get your kidneys to get rid of the excess water which it is struggling to get rid of?

How does this work exactly? It almost sounds counterproductive. I am genuinely curious and not trying to be a dick

Only thing I can think of is that you are not drinking enough water so your body is trying to store / retain as much water as possible for survival purposes (not sure when it will get more water)?

Do some research yourself on this subject.

Schmidt wrote:

PsyCLown wrote:

00pump wrote: Feet up, above your head. Get some slow-k (potassium chloride), you may need a diuretic for 5 to 7 days, or if you have a juicer bang loads of carrots in there and drink that. Your kidneys are struggling to get rid of all the water, so you need to increase your water take by double to force the kidneys to start flushing the water out. And during this process look at getting your estrogen under control.

So your kidneys are struggling to get rid of the excess water your body is holding, so you drink more water to get your kidneys to get rid of the excess water which it is struggling to get rid of?

How does this work exactly? It almost sounds counterproductive. I am genuinely curious and not trying to be a dick

Only thing I can think of is that you are not drinking enough water so your body is trying to store / retain as much water as possible for survival purposes (not sure when it will get more water)?

5-6L a day not enough? I've never had this issue, so I think it's related to elevated estrogen as everyone seems to agree with.

@ Pump, I'll run a diuretic over the weekend and keep going with the A'dex. I'll report back once I notice any change

Don't run the diuretic without the potassium.. 5 to 6 liters is good. The other thing to do is check your blood pressure, being high will place strain on the kidneys.

@ Pump, will a natural diuretic work or do I need something stronger? I've only ever used the Herbex version (natural).

Oh and where can I find the potassium chloride? I've just done some googling but can't seem to find a local trade name or anything on the Dischem website.

You can get it from the dispensary at Dischem. It's called Slow-K. You can try a natural diuretic, it may not be strong enough, but if you can make some carrot juice and drink 2 glasses a day for around a week, it should start to come right.

Thanks brother, will pop in to Dischem after work, and pick up some carrots. If nothing else I'll have 20/20 vision after the weekend :lol:

Hahaha. I doubt that but you may be feeling a bit better. But everytime you can lie down with your legs higher than your heart so you help with the circulation.