JLo's First cutting Cycle

About me:

Age 32
Height 190cm
Weight 114,5
Body fat +/- 18%

[LINK TO PHOTO REMOVED]

Products used: First use - August 2015

Epistane - I seem to get decent results on this, better than Dianabol and Pro-alphadrol

Dianabol, Pro-alphadrol: For some reason both these compounds really don't seem to do anything for me

I removed the link to the photo you posted. Not only does it reveal your name, but it also reveals the exact location where the photo was taken due to your iPhone 6 Geotagging the photo.

I suggest you upload your photo to Tinypic using these instructions: anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/11-general/...ictures-on-the-forum

That is why test is best for a first cycle. I also ran a few Dianabol only cycles in my younger years was a waste you piss away all you water gains as soon as you come off left only with stretch marks...

Thanks admin, for removing the pic. It seems it is my google account adding all that incriminating info... :ohmy:

I will repost the pic, as per the instructions. Is there any way to get my complete post onto this thread, as it was much longer and more detailed than this.

The help is appreciated.

jlouw1 wrote: Is there any way to get my complete post onto this thread, as it was much longer and more detailed than this.

I'm not sure what happened to your post, becuase there was nothing else when I reviewed your post. I only removed the link.

You will have to type everything again.

Okay, I'm trying a complete repost. Not going to lie, this took a long ass time.

About me:

Age 32
Height 190cm
Weight 114,5
Body fat +/- 18%

http://i.imgur.com/Xssk5QK.jpg?1

Products used: First use - August 2015

Epistane - I seem to get decent results on this, better than Dianabol and Pro-alphadrol

Dianabol, Pro-alphadrol: For some reason both these compounds really don't seem to do anything for me.

I used Clomid and Nolvadex as PCT after all of these products. I never experienced any sides except for a bit of liver pain, but only once. I did a full blood workup in the last week. Test, free test, thyroid, kidneys, liver, cholesterol, prolactin, cortisol etc... Everything good.

I have been training since I was 15, but only the last 3 years have been consistent and focused on getting bigger and ripped. I tend to gain muscle at a reasonable pace but then also gain quite a bit of fat. When I try to cut I lose weight but don't get defined, and my muscles get very flat with accompanied strength loss as well.

I am tired of the repetitive cycle of bulking only to have mediocre muscle and fat gains and then cutting to get smaller and soft.

So the purpose of this cycle is to get ripped (below 10% body fat) whilst keeping as much of the muscle I have busted my ass for over the years.

If there is anything retarded in any part of my plan there is no need to take a big dump on me, just tell me what is wrong and why, then I will correct it. I am a big fan of doing things right the first time, wherever possible.

I would like to use the minimum amounts of each compound that would still be effective, mostly to protect my organs.

Nutrition:

I will be dieting over a period of 12 weeks, divided into six phases of 2 weeks each. I plan on having one epic cheat day per week during phases 3 and 6 to keep my metabolism and prolactin levels in check.

Weight	Phase 1	Phase 2	Phase 3	Phase 4	Phase 5	Phase 6
253
Protein	253	253	253	253	253	253
Fats	126.5	126.5	126.5	126.5	126.5	126.5
Carbs	379.5	253	126.5	316.25	189.75	63.25
	3668.5	3162.5	2656.5	3415.5	2909.5	2403.5

Planned Cycle:

Any advice on how to improve or optimise the cycle would be great. I am considering Winstrol instead of Anavar due to cost. If I do go with Anavar I will use the recommended amounts of Creatine.

Day	Test E/C	Epistane	Anavar/Winstrol	Proviron		Clenbuterol	Yohimbe	T3	Ketotifen
1	250mg	60		20		37.5	5	25	3
2		60		20		37.5	5	25	3
3		60		20		37.5	5	25	3
4		60		20		37.5	5	25	3
5		60		20		37.5	5	25	3
6		60		20		37.5	5	25	3
7		40		20		37.5	5	25	3
8	250mg	60		20		37.5	5	25	3
9		60		20		37.5	5	25	3
10		60		20		37.5	5	25	3
11		60		20		37.5	5	25	3
12		60		20		37.5	5	25	3
13		60		20		37.5	5	25	3
14		40		20		37.5	5	25	3
15	250mg	60		20		37.5	5	25	3
16		60		20		37.5	5	25	3
17		60		20		37.5	5	25	3
18		60		20		37.5	5	25	3
19		60		20		37.5	5	25	3
20		60		20		37.5	5	25	3
21		40		40		37.5	5	25	3
22	250mg	60		40		37.5	5	25	3
23		60		40		37.5	5	25	3
24		60		40		37.5	5	25	3
25		60		40		37.5	5	25	3
26		60		40		37.5	5	25	3
27		60		40		37.5	5	25	3
28		40		40		37.5	5	25	3
29	250mg			40		37.5	5	25	3
30				40		37.5	5	25	3
31				40		37.5	5	25	3
32				40		37.5	5	25	3
33				40		37.5	5	25	3
34				40		37.5	5	25	3
35				40		37.5	5	25	3
36	250mg			40		37.5	5	25	3
37				40		37.5	5	25	3
38				40		37.5	5	25	3
39				40		37.5	5	25	3
40				40		37.5	5	25	3
41				40		37.5	5	25	3
42				40		37.5	5	25	3
43	250mg			40		37.5	5	25	3
44				40		37.5	5	25	3
45				40		37.5	5	25	3
46				40		37.5	5	25	3
47				40		37.5	5	25	3
48				40		37.5	5	25	3
49				60		37.5	5	25	3
50	250mg			60		37.5	5	25	3
51				60		37.5	5	25	3
52				60		37.5	5	25	3
53				60		37.5	5	25	3
54				60		37.5	5	25	3
55				60		37.5	5	25	3
56				60		37.5	5	25	3
57	250mg		40	60		37.5	5	25	3
58			40	60		37.5	5	25	3
59			40	60		37.5	5	25	3
60			40	60		37.5	5	25	3
61			40	60		37.5	5	25	3
62			40	60		37.5	5	25	3
63			40	60		37.5	5	25	3
64	250mg		50	60		37.5	5	25	3
65			50	60		37.5	5	25	3
66			50	60		37.5	5	25	3
67			50	60		37.5	5	25	3
68			50	60		37.5	5	25	3
69			50	60		37.5	5	25	3
70			50	60		37.5	5	25	3
71	250mg		60	60		37.5	5	25	3
72			60	60		37.5	5	25	3
73			60	60		37.5	5	25	3
74			60	60		37.5	5	25	3
75			60	60		37.5	5	25	3
76			60	60		37.5	5	25	3
77			60	60		37.5	5	25	3
78	250mg		60	60		37.5	5	25	3
79			60	60		37.5	5	25	3
80			60	60		37.5	5	25	3
81			60	60		37.5	5	25	3
82			60	60		37.5	5	25	3
83			60	60		37.5	5	25	3
84			60	60		37.5	5	25	3

PCT

PCT
Day	Clomid	Hcg	Nolvadex
1	100
2	100
3	100
4	100
5	100
6	100
7	100
8		500	20
9			20
10		500	20
11			20
12		500	20
13			20
14		500	20
15			20
16		500	20
17			20
18		500	20
19			20
20		500	20
21			20
22		500	20
23			20
24		500	20
25			20
26		500	20
27			20
28			20
29			20
30			20
31			20
32			20
33			20
34			20
35			20
36			20
37			20

Training:

I will be doing 6 day of weight training per week with cardio-acceleration. This is basically doing cardio between sets instead of resting. As far as I understood this might be too intense while using Clen, opinions on this would also be great.

Thanks a lot!

Rather do your cardio post weights bro. I struggled to do HIT Cardio on Yohimbine and ECA. So it can be worse on Clean and Yohimbine but try it first everybody responds different. What is your maintenance Calories? If you want to get sub 10 on cycle you need to be in a deficit you only use the anabolics to preserve lean muscle so you can go on a bigger calorie deficit than normal.

Any advice on the cycle guys? I don't want to overdo it and kill myself, or underdo it and have nothing happen.

Could you elaborate some more on the reasoning behind the phases?
Is it Anavar or Winstrol? Big difference mate! I am guessing you mean Anavar.
Clenbuterol must be tapered up every 3-4 days as your receptors down-regulate. If this is not a typo I am concerned that you are not informed enough to run any of these compounds. Especially worrying is 5mg Yohimbine which tells me you do not know the correct dosage.
That's my advice- if you feel I am taking a dump on you then I suggest you MTFU.

Could you elaborate some more on the reasoning behind the phases?

The nutrition plan is from "Shortcut to Shred". The carbs on this plan are dropped in cycles of two weeks to counter the bodies natural adaptation to lowered calories. It is usually a six week plan, but I have modified the calories to allow me to do the six week plan twice in a row. I have also dropped protein intake to 1 gram per pound of bodyweight instead of 1.5, as in my experience the calorie intake would be too high otherwise.
Any recommended changes?

Is it Anavar or Winstrol? Big difference mate! I am guessing you mean Anavar.

I did explain in my original post that I am planning on using Anavar, but depending on input from more experienced members I could go with Winstrol if it would be equally effective. This would be to save a bit of money, as this is a pretty expensive cycle for a first time.

Clenbuterol must be tapered up every 3-4 days as your receptors down-regulate. If this is not a typo I am concerned that you are not informed enough to run any of these compounds. Especially worrying is 5mg Yohimbine which tells me you do not know the correct dosage.

I know that Clen is supposed to be tapered, but I also know that using Ketotifen is a good way of keeping the receptors from down-regulating. That is why Ketotifen is also added to the cycle. It would be my first time on clen, and as I explained I would prefer to use the minimum effective dosages of each chemical.

So if I still need to taper up the dosage, that is exactly what I was trying to determine by posting so much detail.

The Yohimbine isn't all that important to me. The product I can get contains Clen, Yohimbe and T3 in the specified dosages, that is why it is included. I would have to get separate yohimbine to get to the recommended dosage for my size.

That's my advice- if you feel I am taking a dump on you then I suggest you MTFU

I have read on these forums that Gear will only make you a bigger dick if you're already a dick to start with, but from reading a lot of the feedback given to reasonable questions on these forums I am starting to wonder how accurate that statement is.

Finally got this working properly

This is where I am currently at.