My First Cycle Results

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19 Apr 2016 15:22 #198266 by PraetorXII
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This is my first cycle I did a few years back, encouraged by a friend who actually knew very little( and me very naïve) on how things are supposed to be done. Now I know its a bit too late but maybe this can help other guys who are planning to use for certain reasons. Results where ok? If you guys want to ask questions, please feel free.

So from week 1 to 5 - 100 Deca and Sust 250 pinned twice a week plus for the first 3 weeks I also took 20mg DB per day except on weekends, Clomid I took 25mg per day for 60days, 6weeks after last pin.

Now the results: weight was at 93kg , BF 11% from start

after - weight at end 115kg and BF 21%

I chowed everything I could, I trained like an idiot compared to now. Got no Gyno, water retention was moderate and the last week I could feel things starting to shrink.

Research is molto importante!! So please don't be an Idiot like me...

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20 Apr 2016 10:36 #198284 by Peewee
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100Mg Deca guessing they were those Organon amps? Was the sust 250 also those single Organon amps?

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20 Apr 2016 10:43 #198285 by Peewee
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Just asking because my first cycle were those Organon Sust 250 amps. The PIP from those were insane I thought I was gonna die, nothing really compares the the pain except for Rwr test suspension.

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20 Apr 2016 14:14 #198298 by PraetorXII
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yes both were Organon amps, pips wasn't really painful at all had not issues with quality, I'm guessing you got a dirty batch.

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20 Apr 2016 14:49 #198303 by PraetorXII
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oh and I always warmed up the injection area before piping, so paar klappe werk mooi then obviously you start cleaning and sterilizing.

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20 Apr 2016 15:22 #198304 by Peewee
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Yeah I also tried warming up the site. Yeahaaha used give a few slaps and pinches even used to warm up the oil. Even after that the PIP was hectic I eventually put it down to it being Virgin muscle and like you said maybe a dirty batch. All I know is that I was eina hahaha then I tried doing a shoulder shot. Worst decision I ever made, my shoulder swell up to almost double it's size and I couldn't even train.

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20 Apr 2016 15:30 #198305 by PraetorXII
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that's really strange? most of my pips was in the shoulder and I loved the feeling of the injection (don't know why?) was like a sudden burst of rage, when I did it in my quad I was limping like a outoppie maybe because of a shaky hand or I pushed too quick...

unfortunately my friend you have to take it like a man and suck it up....

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20 Apr 2016 15:41 - 20 Apr 2016 15:42 #198306 by Eidolon
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I'm not sure how you could get a dirty batch of Organon unless it was fake :S

Everyone reacts differently to the range of carrier oils and levels of BA, but pharma gear normally has less of the latter than UGL. I believe Organon Sust is carried in arachis (peanut) oil, so if you have a nut allergy, that might explain the pip.
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20 Apr 2016 15:47 #198307 by PraetorXII
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peewee my bra ken jy PS - problem solving to find route cause daar het Eidolon vir jou n paar QFR's gegee

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20 Apr 2016 20:30 #198316 by Peewee
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Eidolon thanks for the information Bro. I honestly didn't know it was nut oil In that sust. Do you think maybe it could have been because of test decanoate ester?


Praetorivs sorry but don't know what QFRS are haha sorry Bro.

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20 Apr 2016 20:35 #198318 by PraetorXII
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Quick Fix Routine bud sorry should have elaborated...

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27 Apr 2016 20:04 #198486 by Pyroclasm
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Eidolon wrote: I'm not sure how you could get a dirty batch of Organon unless it was fake :S

Everyone reacts differently to the range of carrier oils and levels of BA, but pharma gear normally has less of the latter than UGL. I believe Organon Sust is carried in arachis (peanut) oil, so if you have a nut allergy, that might explain the pip.


If you are allergic to the carrier oil you will KNOW it. Injecting bypasses all of the body's defences against the allergen e.g. the liver that filters oral allergens. You will immediately notice that you react already whilst injecting. It will immediately go warm and itch and go red, etc. This PIP is not due to allergies.

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