Start of dbol test e and deca cycle

Rooi Bul 86
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26 May 2016 08:10 #199602 by Rooi Bul 86

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Up Caber to twice a week

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26 May 2016 11:47 #199605 by BEN3

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Did some reading and proviron wouldn't have helped.
Took 1mg arimidex on Monday and 1mg yest. Immediately felt a difference after yest. Think estrogen went up cause dbol also increases estrogen.
Going to take my first caber dose of 0.5mg on this Saturday (end of week 3 and start of week 4) and will take 0.5mg every Saturday thereafter.

Must I carry on with 1mg of arimidex EOD through the cycle or stop it after the dbol and monitor again?
Will I have any sides from the caber if prolactin is not high?

Oupa previously mentioned that deca dick can hit you overnight. So just decided to run the caber from week 4 to prevent the problem before it even starts

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26 May 2016 11:47 #199606 by BEN3

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Never start caber as yet

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26 May 2016 14:35 #199613 by Oupa

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ED issues or just low sex drive?

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26 May 2016 14:54 #199616 by BEN3

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Not ED. Just drive.
After the second dose of arimidex. I'm horny as hell now

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26 May 2016 17:40 #199621 by Oupa

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high estrogen levels.

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06 Jun 2016 13:34 #200116 by BEN3

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Hi guys. In week 5 and everything is going great.

Have some questions on estrogen rebound. Didn't want to start a new topic as all my details are on this thread.

In my case. I'm using arimidex 1mg as needed when I feel my estrogen is getting a bit high. I will run 3 tabs EOD and stop.

My pct (pct 3) is mentioned above. Is there any danger for estrogen rebound?

I'm also using hcg on cycle. Will there still be a need to use clomid as part of pct?

Thanks guys

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Rooi Bul 86
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06 Jun 2016 13:41 #200119 by Rooi Bul 86

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Keep your PCT 3 bud. The Aromasin in there does a good job and should your timing and execution be to the t you should not experience any estrogen rebound. Clomid is still needed and recommended in that PCT stack for a reason it works synergistic with the other compounds

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06 Jun 2016 13:56 #200120 by BEN3

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Thanks Rooi Bul. I will run pct as planned and I'm using all info on this site to plan the bridge times etc.

The way I'm handling the estrogen. With the use of arimidex now and then. Is that fine?

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Rooi Bul 86
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06 Jun 2016 14:15 #200121 by Rooi Bul 86

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3 tabs EOD sound like a lot don't you mean 1 tab every other day or one tab every 3 days?

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06 Jun 2016 15:22 #200125 by BEN3

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Sorry bro. I run 1 tab EOD. Will run 3 tabs and stop

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Rooi Bul 86
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06 Jun 2016 15:25 #200126 by Rooi Bul 86

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You don't want to just stop that is going to cause bad rebound. Taper down 0.5tab EOD then 0.25 or 1/4 tab. Use a pill cutter cheap from Dischem...

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06 Jun 2016 15:43 #200130 by BEN3

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Thanks a lot. I will get that and taper down.

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Rooi Bul 86
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06 Jun 2016 15:48 #200132 by Rooi Bul 86

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Only taper down at the end of your cycle by sounds you are estrogen sensitive this won't change as long as there is androgen in your body converting/aromatizing into Estrogen so taper down as you approach pct

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06 Jun 2016 16:06 #200133 by BEN3

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Thanks bro. I will continue with the AI. Really appreciate your advice.

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Oupa
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06 Jun 2016 22:18 - 06 Jun 2016 22:18 #200158 by Oupa

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He is on 750mg test, used dbols and weighs 80kg's, why taper down and not maintain the adex?

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Rooi Bul 86
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07 Jun 2016 05:44 - 07 Jun 2016 05:49 #200161 by Rooi Bul 86

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Taper down and then he is on PCT and Aromasin.
If he starts taking Adex and and Nolvadex and Aromasin is that not going to crash estrogen levels?

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07 Jun 2016 10:37 #200198 by BEN3

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Only took 1mg arimidex EOD in week 3 and 1mg each on Monday and friday of week 4.
Started it cause I had signs of high estrogen. And very light sensitivity around nipples. (It felt like it was always cold)

Now in week 5. Never take any arimidex. And thought I would hold on with that and monitor myself. Cause I'm also finish with the dbol.

If estrogen sides appear again, I was going to go ahead with Rooi Bulls advice and run it till end of cycle and taper down before pct.

On my last cycle of test and equi. 500mg each weekly. I ran arimidex from the start and never tested myself for estrogen sides.

Compared to last cycle. I am not so sex crazy and the erections aren't of the map like the 1st cycle.
I personally like the feeling now instead of being so crazy and having erections so hard that it wakes me up in the night.

What you think will be best for me?

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13 Jun 2016 13:23 #200465 by BEN3

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As you can see from my last post. I wasn't feeling 100% last week and feeling much different compared to my first cycle with regards to the sex drive. Last week was week 5 and because I wasn't feeling right I decided to do bloods on prolactin and estrogen.

The results are

E2 - 134 pmol/l Ref 40 - 161
Prolactin - 1.5. Ref 2.6 - 18.1

Decided to run 0.5mg of arimidex EOD and cut down on the caber from 0.5 to 0.25 (half a tab) every sat.

Is it possible that the drive and feelings on the first cycle was so high cause of it being the first cycle for my body or that the deca is killing abit of my drive?

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15 Jun 2016 21:51 #200601 by Pyroclasm

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Prolactin is too low that is why you are struggling with libido, etc.!

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17 Jun 2016 13:30 #200641 by BEN3

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Pyroclasm wrote: Prolactin is too low that is why you are struggling with libido, etc.!

Cut the caber out completely now. Will monitor and update.

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05 Jul 2016 18:02 #201332 by BEN3

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In week 9 and all is good. I do need advise on something though.

My deca will finish next week and that will be 10 weeks completed of deca. I do have more test e and I also have 20ml of NPP that's going to expire in November.
Should I adjust the cycle to accommodate the NPP along with the test e (if possible)???
Or just complete cycle earlier than planned.

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07 Jul 2016 10:22 #201348 by Peewee

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If everything is good regarding your blood work and you are still making some good gains I say go for it use the NPP I'd just switch up the test e with prop.

I'm sure I saw Oupa say the gear is fine about a year after its expired if it's kept in good conditions... Just out of curiosity what lab is it.

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07 Jul 2016 13:37 #201358 by BEN3

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Hey Pewee

Lab is alpha.
Not going to extend the cycle. My erections are getting weaker by the day. Started this week.
Im on arimidex EOD and even took a cabber to see if it was prolactin. But no difference. Also using hcg on cycle. So I don't know what's up. Thinking of doing bloods.

Had the same problem with my first cycle test e 500mg and equi 500mg.

Felt great. With training eating etc. was like a porn star when test kicked in around week 5. Erections went dead at week 8.
This time it's Getting weak in week 9.

Anybody ever experience a similar issue?

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07 Jul 2016 17:11 #201362 by Spazzz

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Hey bro

Same happened to my during my 1st cycle. After bloods, my test levels were ridiculously low.. Get those bloods done!

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