First Recovery & Endurance Cycle

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28 May 2016 12:21 #199711 by Hercules
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Hi

This is great forum and very imforative. I have been following for the last couple of months. I am keen on doing my first cycle in the next month and would appreciate your expert opinion.

I am into Crossfit, and have been for the past 4-years, and rugby twice a week. I am currently following a paleo diet and have been for the last 2 years.

My stats:
- 39 years old
- 177cm
- 84kgs
- bf +\- 13%
- I train 5 times a week at 5am mon to wed and then fri to sat

I'm looking for a cycle to help with my recovery primarily, then secondily to assist in my endurance and then lastly provide me with some lean strength gains, but the strength is not a priority. I have seen Oupa's Crossfit Cycle but just worried that this is an intermediate cycle and this will be my first cycle.

My proposed cycle:
Week 1 to 12 - test cyp 250mg per week shot once a week
Week 1 to 20 - hgh 3iu per day
Week 1 to 12 - gw 501516 at 10mg per day
Week 17 to 20 - PCT no. 2 (36-days after last test shot)
*With arimidex on hand just in case for shedding excess water

Do I need to consider HCG in the first 12 weeks? Also I haven't kicked started the cycle with with a faster acting item as I'm more concerned about recovery and endurance not so much the strength. Then with HGH I understand it takes long to work but from a recovery perspective is that also the case?

Thank you in advance for your feedback.

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29 May 2016 07:46 - 29 May 2016 07:50 #199764 by Rooi Bul 86
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Hi Herc.
Welcome.
I would definitely add the Anavar bridge to PCT. Oupa knows his compounds and this cycle was designed to work in synergy so the low dosages of each compound help each other to achieve more...
Also how do we know your Body Fat is 13% did you have it measured at a Bio?

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29 May 2016 09:48 #199770 by Hercules
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Thanks for the response Rooi Bul. It was measured by a dietician two months back. So then in your opinion I should bridge with Anavar or you think it's ok to proceed with with Oupa's full cycle?

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29 May 2016 13:11 #199775 by Rooi Bul 86
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As it is your first cycle go with test like you planned and bridge with Anavar

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29 May 2016 20:47 #199791 by Oupa
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Beginner, Intermediate or RX crossfitter?

Rugby, just casual i guess?

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29 May 2016 21:14 #199792 by Hercules
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Hi Oupa. RX for Crossfit and rugby is casual.

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30 May 2016 15:42 #199815 by Oupa
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Pitty its your first cycle, otherwise you could follow it as is, why i wouldnt recommend that exact cycle is that you have no idea how your body will respond to the compounds.

But...

I have helped many Crossfitters, and there was no negative side at all with the compounds and !!DOSAGES!! as mentioned in the cycle. However i did I exclude the Masteron for new users.
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30 May 2016 20:19 #199827 by Rooi Bul 86
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I bet most guys get good very vascular in those last weeks where the Eq and Var are at play together?

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30 May 2016 22:26 #199832 by Oupa
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Vascular has to do with very low body fat and mostly genetics.
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02 Jun 2016 14:18 #199970 by Hercules
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Ok great thanks Oupa. I will follow your cycle then but exclude the masteron.

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02 Jun 2016 15:32 #199975 by ninjajuice
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@Oupa, would Primo be a valuable addition to the crossfit cycle? Either added to or to replace the equi? Detection time of equi being the main concern? Also I love primo :)

And would you be against frontloading with some Var and Prop?

Lastly Test Enan or Test Cyp? I've never used Enan and only ever used cyp but would like to see if there is any difference?

(sorry for the hijack, I will open a new thread if need be)

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02 Jun 2016 18:52 #199982 by Oupa
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Primo is brilliant for crossfit, but keep the test low and bump the Primo to 600mg per week. Cyp or Enan, you wont notice the difference at low dosages. Anavar is a must for crossfit.
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03 Jun 2016 09:05 #199997 by ninjajuice
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Oupa wrote: Primo is brilliant for crossfit, but keep the test low and bump the Primo to 600mg per week. Cyp or Enan, you wont notice the difference at low dosages. Anavar is a must for crossfit.


Thanks so much Oupa. I'm looking at competing at elite level. I'll start a new thread with my proposed cycle and I'd love some feedback if you don't mind.

Have a great weekend bud
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