1st cycle, gain mass

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02 Jul 2016 08:16 #201248 by OPTRON
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@miticco: There isn't an exact blueprint and everyone is different. That's why the experienced guys normally want you to do some research first. Also the examples, is only examples for the average Joe.

The idea is:
Do some research.
Have a look at the examples.
Establish your goal.
Formulate a base cycle.
Post your goals together with your base cycle.
Ask for inputs.
State all you questions and concerns.

Thus is the easiest way to have a cycle taylor made for your own specific needs.

So go ahead, post you cycle. Furk and Oupa will help to sort it out for you.

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02 Jul 2016 15:38 #201251 by miticco
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The cycle is done:

10 weeks(1-70)
250mg of cyp test 2x per week;
40mg proviron ED;
250ui HCG 2x per week from 4th week till the end.

The bridge i've thought to do:

22 days (71-92)
71 - 77 days. 75mg prop test 4x;
78 - 85 days. 60mg prop test 4x;
86 - 93 days. 50mg prop test 4x;

PCT is done too:

44 days (from 106 to 149)
106 - 119 days. 50mg Clomid ED;
120-149 days. 20mg Nolvadex ED;

That's all, just have a look to the bridge! i've done some research but no one explain this, In case i notice gyno coming i have to assume arimidex ED @ 0.5mg and change the dose on my feeling, or start directly @ 1mg ? Have to take it till the feeling on gyno has gone, right ?

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03 Jul 2016 06:32 #201254 by OPTRON
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Cycle looks good to me.

I would just add Aromasin in the PCT, if it was my cycle. On the Arimidex I can't really comment as I haven't used it before. I am not really gyno prone. You could also add an oral to the bridge as well, but that's up to you.

Let's see what some of the more experienced guys think, but for me you are on the right track.

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04 Jul 2016 16:09 - 04 Jul 2016 16:28 #201300 by miticco
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Waiting other guys to know what they think about adding Aromasin in the pct @ 20mg ED for 30days starting together Nolvadex, and the bridge.

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04 Jul 2016 16:15 #201301 by OPTRON
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Bud, no discussing costs or prices on the forum!!!!

I would definitely go with the Aromasin.

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04 Jul 2016 16:30 #201302 by miticco
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My fault! So the pct become:

44 days (from 106 to 149)
106 - 119 days. 50mg Clomid ED ;
120-149 days. 20mg Nolvadex ED & Aromasin 20mg ED;

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04 Jul 2016 19:47 #201306 by OPTRON
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All good, have done a few of those with different orals and worked excellent.

Keep us updated

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04 Jul 2016 21:01 - 04 Jul 2016 21:03 #201312 by Pyroclasm
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I agree fully with Optron everything this guy says tells me he is nowhere near ready for a cycle! Things like:

1) Arguing which has less sides- Test En or EQ
2) Grammar
3) "Gine", do you mean 'Guinea'?
4) No diet or training posted
5) 'Thin bones' is not a medical diagnosis. 'Calcium deficiency' is.
6) WTF does Low/Med fat mean? This isn't Clover.co.za.

This dude is gonna fuck it up big time if he cycles now! Optron said this couple of times already go and read the damn articles. Then read the stickies on the forum. By that time your mindset will be much better!
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04 Jul 2016 22:54 #201315 by miticco
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Pyroclasm wrote: I agree fully with Optron everything this guy says tells me he is nowhere near ready for a cycle! Things like:

1) Arguing which has less sides- Test En or EQ
2) Grammar
3) "Gine", do you mean 'Guinea'?
4) No diet or training posted
5) 'Thin bones' is not a medical diagnosis. 'Calcium deficiency' is.
6) WTF does Low/Med fat mean? This isn't Clover.co.za.

This dude is gonna fuck it up big time if he cycles now! Optron said this couple of times already go and read the damn articles. Then read the stickies on the forum. By that time your mindset will be much better!


Gyne = gynecomastia;
I haven't posted anithing in diet/training cause i'm doing some research on how they change on cycle (i'm following an ipo-diet now), i'll post not so far ;)
Thin bones as you said is not a medical diagnosis, i want to say i'm a mesomorph type;
Low/med bf because i don't know the numeric %,i think it's 15/17% i rely to the mirror, if can help i'll post some photos.
I know something about training and dieting, but I'm a noob about steroids, i didn't know anything about them, so i've posted a lot of questions, i'm sorry about that cause on the samples/articles there are a lot of info.

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