Anavar, Prop & Tren Ace cycle

Hi Guys,

Quick stats again. Age – 29, Weight 85kg, Height 1.85, BF 12-14

I’m in the final stages of planning my next cycle, planning on starting the first week of October. I wasn’t decided on the cycle that I wanted to do, but I looked around the sample cycles and found the Anavar, Prop & Tren Ace cycle. Think that this is perfect for my goals at present. Basically – Anavar/Prop/Tren and Clen.

I just want to ask a few questions as I go along on which I would appreciate it if anyone with experience and Admin can weigh in. Sure lots more questions will pop up but these are my initial ones…

1. Seeing as I’m not very experienced with Prop or Tren, I plan on pinning 100mg Prop and 80mg Tren Ace EOD. Would this suffice?

2. The sample cycle has included HCG in PCT. I’ve read from multiple sources that HCG might be better suited during cycle and that use during PCT can sometimes do more harm that good. I plan on running 500iu EOD throughout. PCT will be clomid, nolva and aromasin.

3. The sample indicates Prop and Tren are used up to day 39. Thereafter Anavar is continued until day 56, with PCT starting the next day. Can anyone explain to me why there is a two week break after test end tren injections have stopped before PCT is started. I know PCT for prop or tren would normally start three days after the last injection.

4. Lastly, I will be running arimidex throughout the cycle, but haven’t been able to get hold of anything to control prolactin. Can any experienced tren users advise whether it would be considered okay to run this cycle without prolactin control?

Thanks for the help.

bamiam wrote: Hi Guys,

Quick stats again. Age – 29, Weight 85kg, Height 1.85, BF 12-14

I’m in the final stages of planning my next cycle, planning on starting the first week of October. I wasn’t decided on the cycle that I wanted to do, but I looked around the sample cycles and found the Anavar, Prop & Tren Ace cycle. Think that this is perfect for my goals at present. Basically – Anavar/Prop/Tren and Clen.

I just want to ask a few questions as I go along on which I would appreciate it if anyone with experience and Admin can weigh in. Sure lots more questions will pop up but these are my initial ones…

1. Seeing as I’m not very experienced with Prop or Tren, I plan on pinning 100mg Prop and 80mg Tren Ace EOD. Would this suffice? Yes

2. The sample cycle has included HCG in PCT. I’ve read from multiple sources that HCG might be better suited during cycle and that use during PCT can sometimes do more harm that good. I plan on running 500iu EOD throughout. PCT will be clomid, nolva and aromasin. Perfect

3. The sample indicates Prop and Tren are used up to day 39. Thereafter Anavar is continued until day 56, with PCT starting the next day. Can anyone explain to me why there is a two week break after test end tren injections have stopped before PCT is started. I know PCT for prop or tren would normally start three days after the last injection. Awaiting the injectables half life of the steroid to exit your system/blood

4. Lastly, I will be running arimidex throughout the cycle, but haven’t been able to get hold of anything to control prolactin. Can any experienced tren users advise whether it would be considered okay to run this cycle without prolactin control? Its a big risk in using tren without prolactin control.

Thanks for the help.

Thanks Oupa!

I've literally tried to get hold of cabaser/Parlodel/dostinex from every source that I know of, without any luck. I'll keep trying though and still have a few weeks before I start. Really don't want to swap the tren with something else, think the cycle effects would be lost.

Have you tried the sites product enquiries? long shot but wtf not give it a try

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/contact-us/3-enquiries

even though the answers are not directed at me, love the way oupa answers. short and sweet straight to the point.

Will do Oupa. I "might" be able to get some Primapexole (Mirapex), seems like it's rated as one of the better prolactin control substances around. Will have to do some more reading up on dosage etc.

Think I can consider the prolactin control sorted as I've ordered Primapexole.

Next question is regarding injection specifics.

1. What syringe/needle sizes will be recommended for Prop, Tren and HCG?
2. Do you use the same needle for drawing and injection?
3. Any preferred injection sites for these compounds or in general? I've only injected glutes, but this cycle will require two or three(third for HCG) injections EOD, so I might be looking to pin quads and delts as well.

Thanks again for all the help guys.

Hey bamiam,I'm currently injecting tren ace and test prop..I use a 3ml syringe,I personally like 21g needles or 22g as the fluid flows quickly and easily.
Use a different needle for sucking it up and injecting.
I'm currently alternating between my glutes,but other sites are recommended.
HCG you inject in your gut with a insulin syringe

Hope this helps a bit

bamiam wrote: Think I can consider the prolactin control sorted as I've ordered Primapexole.

Next question is regarding injection specifics.

1. What syringe/needle sizes will be recommended for Prop, Tren and HCG?
2. Do you use the same needle for drawing and injection?
3. Any preferred injection sites for these compounds or in general? I've only injected glutes, but this cycle will require two or three(third for HCG) injections EOD, so I might be looking to pin quads and delts as well.

Thanks again for all the help guys.

1. Oil based steroids - 23g - 25g, but withdraw with a 20g. HCG - Insulin syringe
2. As above
3. 19nor preferred site is Glutes. I pin Left glute, right glute, left delt right delt with EOD pins. Have been doing so for years, no shit or scar tissue.

@ BAMIAM

What concerns me the most is that you are asking questions like this and planning to use TREN !

Tren is dangerous, one pin mistake and your fucked. Accidentally pin into a vain, and you will most probably end up in ICU, if you make it in time. :dry:

Have you red up on tren cough, that's also nasty shit man, terrible side... make sure you have an asma pump on hand if your chest/lungs starts getting itchy

I DO NOT RECOMMEND YOU USE TREN

Hi Oupa,

Thanks again for the advise and assistance.

I admit that I’m a complete novice when it comes to Tren, but hey so was every single person before they used it… I’ve read up on tren as much as I can and will continue doing so until my cycle starts.

My apologies if my questions seemed stupid, my only intent was to gather as much info from people who have used these substances or have done a similar cycle. I think that I’ve approached this cycle quite cautiously, I’m trying to gather as much info as possible to ensure that I don’t mess anything up, I’ve also dropped the dosses significantly as I know that I’m inexperienced in terms of tren and this specific pinning regimen.

Hi gents,

Think I'm settled on my cycle. Starting 1st week of October and planned to run till last day of December.

Cycle

Day 1 to 40 :
Test Prop - 100mg EOD
Tren Ace - 80mg EOD

Day 1 to 60 :
Anavar - 60mg ED (40mg ED day 41 to PCT)
CYX 3 - 1 tab daily (Added this instead of taking T3 seperately)
Clen - Start @ 40mcg up to 100mcg
Arimidex - 0.5mg daily
HCG - 250 iu every 4th day
Vit B6 - 200/300mg twice daily
Betasleep 2 tabs ED
Cycle Support Vits

PCT
Week 1
Clomid - 2 x 50mg ED

30 Days
Nolva - 20mg ED
Aromasin - 20mg ED

Would appreciate any thoughts/comments. I haven't been able to get caber or dostinex, but have placed a order for pramipexole. Prami seems quite rough sides wise from what I've read and dosing is quite complex and very uncertain. So I'm planning on only using that if needed. I might actually rather go to my doctor and have him prescribe dostinex if sides do become apparent, will see.

I refuse to comment as you are choosing to ignore good advice by your ignorance.

00pump wrote: I refuse to comment as you are choosing to ignore good advice by your ignorance.

Agreed. Backing out.

Hi Guys,

Okay. I admit that I might have appeared ignorant, but I assure you this is not the case. I'm diligent in my planning and preparation and that is also why I try to get experienced views from vets on this forum.

Other than the inclusion of tren in this cycle, which I understand is not advised. Do you feel any other improvements can be made? Can you advise what other compound would you recommend with Var and Prop in the place of tren? Goal still being leaning out further and adding a bit of lean mass.

I would greatly appreciate it if you provide me with your insight, which I promise I will take to heart.

What is your previous cycle history?

Have done the following, no specific order

DBol, Masteron
Anavar, Proviron, Clen (More than once)
Anavar, Clen
Test Cyp, Proviron, Winny

Variable options I see for this stack is to drop Tren and do Mast instead.(Know it won't come close to the same effect, but will be safer WISER option). Can also swap Var for DBol or Winny, but I'm not sure if these would be considered better in this stack?

That would then leave me with a compound stack where I've got no new compounds, only the new test ester?

hey bud, i'm no expert and have zero cycle history... but the sample cycles are a good place to start looking.

Based on what you have posted about your cycle history i would probably use the test c and primo cycle as in the sample section. It's also a lean mass cycle and from what i read primo is far safer/easier to use than tren for someone with less AAS experience.

PS this is only my opinion and what i would have done if i were in your shoes.
Hope my inexperienced opinion counts

Hey Hoosain, thanks counts in my book.

I want to prove that I take advice seriously and I'm busy revising my cycle and dropping the tren. Although I have used mast I don't think my condition is currently at the point where I can take full advantage of its effects, so dropping that to.

Will post everything shortly. I think the experienced guys will feel much more comfortable to help me and hopefully be willing to answer my last few questions.

Yeah they are already helping alot by stopping tren advice.

If you check the other thread about the guy who ended up in hospital you can see why they would become "cold" on certain things. It's not that they are being cold, but more worried about all of us on here.
I am certain they will be willing to answer more questions with the revised cycle plans.

Good luck with the cycle and good on you for gathering as much info as possible.

And then also, another thanks to all the experienced okes who would rather come across as "cold" than to have any of us do something stupid. Your valuable input (and coldness LOL) is appreciated

Agree with Hoosain’s sentiments and I truly appreciate the input of the experienced guys out there.

Round two…

Revised –

Week 1 to 6 – Test Prop 150mg EOD
Week 1 to 8 – Var 80mg ED (Drop to 60mg ED for last two weeks)
- Clen 40mcg taper up to 100/120mcg
- Adex 0.5 ED
- HCG 250 iu every fourth day

PCT
Clomid first 7 days
Aromasin and Nolva next 30 days

Question -
1. Thoughts on adding proviron and or GW? Would it be of any use? I was going to add GW to counter some of the tren effects, but hey not doing tren anymore.

Any other thoughts comments will be appreciated as always

Word of advice.

Listen to Oupa and Admin,and more experienced users

dont be stupid and end up like I did because of being greedy on results and gains.

Trust me its not worth it,

Got greedy abused gear ended up in hospital cut my cycle short not good,

and a very expensive story not only on the gear that i over bought and used but hospital Meds having to take leave from work and the list goes on.

Boet you are on this forum for the reason of getting help use it,

Noted, hence the revision made.

I'm planning on adding proviron 40mg ED to revised cycle stated above.

Thoughts on the above will be appreciated Oupa, Pump.

6 week cycle is a waist of time.