StarzCarbon Log 1st proper cycle

Hi Guys so many years ago used went on a cycle,
Due to personal reasons etc stopped short and years later lost a lot of weight BMI under average
got involved with bad people bad stuff. lost my kid and reason for my log as I feel I have done well in the last 3 weeks

Age 27
Starting weight 72kg
height just over 1.8
calories intake started at 3200 currently at 4800/5000

cycle
started on supertest 640mg a week/ but now I am on test E 900mg a week just cant handle ST320 pain
Deca 700mg a week
anaps from week 1 - 4


sides i have experienced
even though I am on deca joint pains exist
blurry eyes last few days
extreme heartburn
and first 2 weeks of Anaps was hard on headaches and insomnia

Current weight 92.8kg alot of water yes
Strength has gone up reasonably

Some before after and current pics
Still feel skinny arms at 38cm currently never measured befI started but yah skinny haha





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What dosage you running the Anaps?

For your weight and current muscle mass I think your Test Enanthate dosage is way way overlkill. Do you have a Aromatase Inhibitor on hand in case Estrogen side effects like gyno started raising their heads?

Actually I refrase even your Decca dose is over kill. Do you have caber on hand?
I am not trying to be an ass I am genuinely concerned about your safety here man.

I take arimidex on a sunday with my pin
Have dostinex on hand
No issues so for.
Only have 3 weeks left of cycle and 1 tab arimidex left.
I started the anaps on 50mg then bumped up to 100mg
On milk thissle and essentials extreme

Last pin of deca tonight

Hoelank is jou cycle?

16 weke...

You eating 5000 calories my man? Are you sure?
I run max test 600, deca max 700. That's heavy boet.
Calories not far from mine, careful you don't get fat.

Yes callories between 4800 and 5000
I use fat secret app and count every meal.
On weekends I eat about 3500 a bot lazy to make 8 meals on weekend.

I will drop the test to 600 then.
Deca is finished now.

I am very active train 6 days.
Also do kickboxing 3 x week and swim twice a week 10 laps sprint and 500m I am a long distance swimmer preparing for the midmar mile in february

Still feel very skinny can feel my hip and shoulder bones.

Deca still high bud and that's a fuck load of calories.
I did boxing and bodybuilding, had to drop one.
Dropped boxing to become a muscle head, can help once you choose your destination.
Keep your dosage safe friend.

Sho, at first I thought you gained 20KG in 3 weeks and I was like "WTF..."
Although now I realize it was 20KG in 3 months, still a significant amount of weight - water or not and perhaps the cause of your joint pains?

Doses do seem quite high, especially for a 1st cycle. How many sizes have you gained (pants / T-shirt) with this cycle for interest sake, as well as strength? What are your weights for squats, chest (bench / DB press), deadlifts and OHP?

Will answer all the weight questions in the morning admitted to hospital bp very high 198/123 or something like that a bit confused still lol.
Out of my head sorry cant answer properly haha confusion uhm I started bench at a weak 45kg chest is very bad. Tuesday benched 94kg did drop sets not sure what my max is I dont do deadlifts or squats unfortunately fell into a dam that was empty and tore 6 ligements right off had to go for surgery and replaced all 6 in my left knee. Legs for that reason i do very low weights and high reps any tension and strain vertically causes immense pain. Reason for swimming and kickboxing to keep the new ligements healthy. Db press 35kg only chest is weak. Shoulder press db 45 barbell 80 machine think max at gym is 108.
I was a medium shirt now large is tightaround shoulders chest and arms. Started 32" still 32" atleast now i have a bit more weight around hips due to high cals and dont need a belt. Beleive board shorts at 32" wont fit me anymore.
Being a skinny guy on ez bar xurl i strugled with 17.5. Max our gym has is 45 which i do now will move to the plated ez bar next week.

There is no way you weigh almost 100kg @ 1.8m with your last photo uploaded. Not unless you have tree trunks for legs

I'm 88Kg and I di have tree trunks for legs, 1.83m, and from your pics, I can't see the 90kgs unless your bones are metal like wolverine or, you are using the scale rugby players use for their profiles, it always seems to be about 10kgs higher than normal scales...

Uhm i really dont need to lie about my log
Saturday morning


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Dont trust this scale but just took the photo now.

Sure I lost about 2kg over the weekend not eating right and being sick

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Took the picture now as well. My legs are small as i said cant train them hard

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If that's u , then i take it on the chin. Heavy for a small man.

I'm also like that Oupa not very big but very heavy

Yes im distinctive in my tattoos on my bavk and chest so not sure where the weight is I read up on the anaps apparently alot goes and sits in the legs but I dont have big legs at all. So yah not sure where the weight is sitting. But not complaining

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Hope you are feeling better after all the BP issues, sickness etc? Just shows how different bodies differ in weight... So have you stopped all your juice now. Are you on the PCT, whats your plan?

Hi TheV i am on the waiting period for pct yes. Last Deca was on Thursday just before I got hospitalized, so of the gear will rest do pct and take about 16 weeks before new cycle probably about end of February/march start a new cycle.
Will run the same cycle because i need the mass just at lower dosages.

Will uodate the log again on day 1 of pct and day 37 of pct to report what happened to wieght and strength.

Thanks again for all the criticism and support guys

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Please let us know how you handle the PCT. I'm in the middle of a cycle now, and kinda dreading the PCT. Still trying to decide if I'm going to hit Clo 100mg or stretch at 50mg

StarzCarbon wrote: Hi TheV i am on the waiting period for pct yes. Last Deca was on Thursday just before I got hospitalized, so of the gear will rest do pct and take about 16 weeks before new cycle probably about end of February/march start a new cycle.
Will run the same cycle because i need the mass just at lower dosages.

Will uodate the log again on day 1 of pct and day 37 of pct to report what happened to wieght and strength.

Thanks again for all the criticism and support guys

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It's advised that you take longer than a 4 month break between the end of your PCT and your new cycle.
At the very least get some bloods done and make sure you have recovered properly before going into another cycle.

TheV wrote: Please let us know how you handle the PCT. I'm in the middle of a cycle now, and kinda dreading the PCT. Still trying to decide if I'm going to hit Clo 100mg or stretch at 50mg

When I did PCT for my previous cycle it wasn't fun, Clomid is shit. I stretched it out to 50mg over 2 weeks and felt extremely emotional as well a de-motivated and so forth.
If you run it at 100mg the sides are even worse, so it is best to run it at 50mg per day. I was fine before and after the Clomid though, the Nolvadex isn't bad.

If you have a SO, I recommend you let them know in advance as you will be weird and sort of like an emotional PMS-like girl and your sex drive will most likely be rather farked. Go from hard to soft mid-coitus for example.

At least that was me and how I reacted to it. Everything combined together just isn't a fun time after the amazing cycle you have just experienced.

PsyCLown wrote:

StarzCarbon wrote: Hi TheV i am on the waiting period for pct yes. Last Deca was on Thursday just before I got hospitalized, so of the gear will rest do pct and take about 16 weeks before new cycle probably about end of February/march start a new cycle.
Will run the same cycle because i need the mass just at lower dosages.

Will uodate the log again on day 1 of pct and day 37 of pct to report what happened to wieght and strength.

Thanks again for all the criticism and support guys

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It's advised that you take longer than a 4 month break between the end of your PCT and your new cycle.
At the very least get some bloods done and make sure you have recovered properly before going into another cycle.

TheV wrote: Please let us know how you handle the PCT. I'm in the middle of a cycle now, and kinda dreading the PCT. Still trying to decide if I'm going to hit Clo 100mg or stretch at 50mg

When I did PCT for my previous cycle it wasn't fun, Clomid is shit. I stretched it out to 50mg over 2 weeks and felt extremely emotional as well a de-motivated and so forth.
If you run it at 100mg the sides are even worse, so it is best to run it at 50mg per day. I was fine before and after the Clomid though, the Nolvadex isn't bad.

If you have a SO, I recommend you let them know in advance as you will be weird and sort of like an emotional PMS-like girl and your sex drive will most likely be rather farked. Go from hard to soft mid-coitus for example.

At least that was me and how I reacted to it. Everything combined together just isn't a fun time after the amazing cycle you have just experienced.

Maybe there should be a sticky for this as a rule of thumb guide line... I had in my mind if you were on for lets say 12 weeks.. Do pct then minimum rest period would be 12 weeks. Never really thought about this accurately would be nice to have a sticky explaining this with the reason? Cuze trying to search this on the net is just stupid and I know alot of hate on this guy... But I saw a vid on Rich saying sometimes he is off for 1month sometimes 6 months for instance...?

Thanks

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Time off = Time on cycle + bridge + PCT (To be on the save side and not messing with your health).

Before you don't learn and know how to maintain off cycle, you would never really benefit as much as you would on cycle. Remember, everything you cycle you have to take a little bit more to gain the same as the previous cycle and cutting you rest time short, makes it even worse.

@ Starz

Bud remember not even the Best PCT in the world is going to fully recover your endogenous hormones fully it only helps you recover and get back to where you were before cycle faster but your levels only return to normal or just slightly below with the rest"off" time after PCT. That is why the best way to do it is calculate your entire cycle and bridge and PCT time add them together and that is your off time that you take before doing bloods to see if you are recovered if the bloods show you are good to go then you shoot up a cycle again!