Advice needed on cycle please

Hey guys,

Hoping someone can chime in and give me some advice and/or talk some sense into me.

First off,

Stats:
Age: 20, turning 21 early next year
Height: 181cm
Weight: 97 / 98kg

Current diet:

Breakfast
- Egg whites x6
- Banana x1
- Oats 40g

Breakfast 2
- Oats 80-100g
- Whey protein 1 serving

Lunch
- 200g chicken
- 100g lentils

Lunch 2
- 200g chicken

Post gym
- Protein shake
- Rice cakes 3x

Supper
- What ever I get (usually crumbed chicken or fish with veggies)

After supper meal 1
- 200g lean beef mince

After supper meal 2
- 200g chicken

Go through about roughly 4l of water a day.

So my current situation is I would really like to do a cycle. I am abit on the fence about it but gym wise I'm committed, I don't drink or smoke and am strict on my diet. I honestly see myself doing this for the rest of my life and I would at some stage like to compete (long term goal I would like to reach one day).

Am I taking too much of a risk now by cycling at this age?

I would ideally like to do either a test only or test and turinabol cycle but would it be somewhat safer to just start off with a sarm like ostarine instead? (Would still require a pct for ostarine though).

Do you guys have any advice for me?

Regards

Hi Outlaw.

Firstly you sound like a smart guy. You mentioned that you know even a SARM only cycle is going to require a PCT so it shows you have done your homework and research. I would say wait until 25/26 that would be the sensible thing to do

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Hi Outlaw.

Firstly you sound like a smart guy. You mentioned that you know even a SARM only cycle is going to require a PCT so it shows you have done your homework and research. I would say wait until 25/26 that would be the sensible thing to do

Depends on goals though. Know that a cycle will cause more long term affects at your age than 25/6 as RooiBul suggested. (Your recovery, test production, and hormonal health) If you plan to make bodybuilding /cycling a long term thing, yeah go for it and get huge! SARMS will be safer for you right now though. But I'd advise wait until you're older and your natty system slows down. Probably not what you want to hear.

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I agree with furk, try and hold of using gear for as long as you can, but if you decide to use it. Just keep us updated also start small.
A lot of beginner cycles are around 500-600mg of test but I find 450mg of test (eg 1.5mls
Of test E pgw ) can go a long way as a beginner.

I like your attitude it seems you have your head screwed on right. What bodyfat percentage are you at? The best way I can help you is if you post pics of your upper body and lower both side and rear, and one full body from the side.

Thank you for your replies guys. Yea, I do think it would be best to wait. The SARM is tempting though but yea. I think I should maybe get some blood work done to see where exactly I am (Yes, my test levels should be at their highest but with stress, diet, sleep and training I could be abit low and then I can adjust accordingly - just want to eek out as much as I can).

I do think my body fat may be a hindrance - I'm not sure of the percentage but I'd say around 15-20% (I would try and cut down before if I had to)

I say getting your bloods done and getting your body fat measured is a good starting point. Also if you want to eek out as much as you can get a custom diet tailored for you

Normally I agree with the guys on the age factor but a short cycle of test ain't gonna kill you my friend, you have good shape/ frame and goals so follow them I say. Don't get carried away on juice but that golden cycle may be the motivation you need to keep on pursuing you goals.

I vote yes and it looks like you know what you doing. One cycle won't break you with a good PCT.

Mentally you seem fit to run it.

Oh, + 1

You have good frame and foundation to build on. Looking solid. Keep up the good hard work.

Hi Outlaw, seems you have a solid base to work from. A big boy for a 20 year old.

If you are really into it for the long haul and committed to diet and training as you mentioned, I would test the waters with something like the "Beginner bulking cycle" as written by Admin in the Sample Cycles section. You can use that as a base and have some of the guys help you tweak the cycle.

You have a perfect opportunity to do everything right from the start without having to do to much damage control.

Good luck

Outlaw, you may be natty, but your body hair doesn't look like it. Uncanny hair distribution, especially that landing strip from your navel lol.

But seriously, looking good for a 20 year old. You certainly can make more gains without gear. But I'd be tempted as hell to get juicy if I was in your position. Up to you though.

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Nice wheels bro! For me we first drop the body fat to 9%, then we hit the cycle as hard as you hit a stepchild!

Thank you to everybody who commented on my post, much appreciated!

@Furk Hahaha yea, my body hair is not cool man, grows everywhere else except for where it should grow - male pattern baldness sucks balls... At least I have a beard though.

Been doing a lot of thinking and like I said, I really see myself doing this for the rest of my life and it's something I'm very passionate about so I am going to run a cycle. Would like to run Turinabol but I think a Test only cycle would be more than enough plus I can then gauge how I react to it.

Will be getting bloods done soon to see where I am currently and so I can track my recovery once I've completed my PCT.

Body fat percentage will also be measured and then I'll really be able to get my diet dialed in and the cutting phase shall then commence.

Have also joined a new gym recently which has a swimming pool so will be doing some swimming to up fitness and burn some extra calories.

@Pyroclasm This will be the first time being in single digit body fat numbers as I've been a fatty pretty much all my life so I'm keen to see how I'll look.

Will be keeping my thread up to date as I go along.

Thanks again guys