Test cyp and anavar cycle

Hi guys,

So since over a year ago I started with the idea of anavar only and have since put it on hold while gathering info from this awesome site.

After all this time and with the help of my source I have now started a low dose test with a frontload anavar.

Will be a 12 week cycle where I will be doing 200mg test per week for The 1st 4 weeks and then upping the dose for the remainder of thethe cycle if my body is happy with it. I have decided on a low dose start just to see how I react as opposed to going for the "bigger is better" dose approach.

also anavar starting on 20mg per day the first week and then tapering by doubling every week until I reach 60-80mg (depending on sides/pumps)... This will be a 6 week frontload.

I have decided to start hcg from week for to save the testes and help with recovery.

I have aromasin on hand in case of gyro or if the bloating becomes too much for me.

Pct will be pct2 from article section.

I have decided on 3000 calories to aid some growth and will probably up as I grow to ensure I don't fall short with calories for my new size.

Test be starke and and the anavar will be Genitec.

I initially wanted to start in Jan but my source suggested I start a cycle with him and we use the same brands.
I am in the fortunate position not to be paying and will not hassle him for other brands since he is using the same goods.

So yesterday we started with our first pin and orals.
He wanted to do the first pin for me but I decided to do it myself. Did a quad pin with a 23g needle. At first I was nervous then he told me to have a shower and relax my body and mind. It worked an the pinning went great. I expected pain but felt absolutely nothing other than some minor PIP. Leg feeling awesome again this morning.

Started with the oral at 20mg split between morning and afternoon, then had a training session the afternoon.

I immediately felt the difference where I could push more reps but decided not to increase weight just yet. Will allow my body to adjust to the strength increase for the first week and then go crazy.
I also experienced the famous anavar pump. I tried my usual 20 minute run on the treadmill but had to stop at 13 minutes because I couldn't take the calf pumps anymore. Went on to the weights and absolutely loved the bicep pumps!!! Not sure if it was my imagination but my arm seemed to have been visibly bigger with the pumps... They have gone down to normal again though lol.

I will try to update weekly and as usual welcome any comments and criticism. One only learns when we know where we are going wrong.

Thanks in advance,
Saddam

Hey dude,

Nice idea for a first cycle, I have something comments though.

1) No need to discuss your dealers practices. (Eg free gear) That's non of our business. Non the less, he seems like a cool bloke.

2) Anavar has mild sides, I wouldn't usually ever taper orals starting that low, but at least you are getting some effect from it. I'd run Var 60-80mg PD. Also, you are using Var as a kicker, not a frontload. Frontload is starting your cycle with a higher dose than the rest of the cycle.

3) Test is also on the low side IMHO.

4) Are you planning a bridge? Var makes an awesome bridge to PCT.

5) Stats?


Aweh.

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Thanks for the feedback furk.

1) was more explaining my reasoning for the brands chosen. Didn't mean to get his business out there.

2) kicker yes, apologies for that little mistake. Reason behind the taper is to see how much my body reacts to. Pointless jumping to 60mg when my sweet spot could possibly 40mg with no added benefit going higher. Trying to see what works for me personally.

3) test is low yes, once again it's a first cycle and I'm trying to figure out how my body responds to it. After 4 weeks test should have kicked in and I can decide if I really need more.

4) oh yes, bridge he plans on doing winny, I however don't want the joint issues and will probably go with anavar again. I am still deciding and will choose between the two closer to the time.

5) currently 91kg at 1,78m. Didn't have BF checked but it was at 14% the last time I checked. Even though I gained weight I have been eating cleaner and used some clen. So I doubt I have really gained higher than 14%, in fact I'm sure it's probably gone down to 13%. I will get it checked just to be accurate.

For now I'm excited about the results and will be focused on training hard!

Hey,

I get your reasoning, better to test the water first and see how little you can get results with. Respect your approach. You're actually not the first person I've heard taking about the sides of Var, but since I did 100 percent fine on 80mg I'm just surprised when I hear about sides.

Actually I'm glad you mentioned the gears lab, we have little enough anecdotes on variety in my opinion. I've heard good things of Starke but never used it myself.

Yeah Winny becomes a problem if you do other sports/activities that are taxing on your joints.

Good foundation, keen to follow mate.

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Just a little update. I am currently on holiday but training much better since I have no work and school runs taking up time. No rushing a session and no need to cut short due to time.

Yesterday did the usual run and had to stop once again due to calf pumps. Hit the weights and absolutely loved the chest pumps. First time I really felt a chest pump like that.
I spent the day at the beach on the boogie board as well as some time jumping on the trampolines with the kids. Could even feel muscle pumps from such light activity. Loving the anavar so far.

Today did cycling instead of running and eventually my quads were also pumped like crazy.
Did legs this morning and felt like the best leg day ever!

Quite impressed with the effects from such a low dose, could be because I'm a first time user. Will up dose to 40mg after Saturday.

As for the test, not sure how exactly I will know when it's kicking in. From what I read and heard it will kick in after 4 weeks. I'm just not sure how exactly I will know.

As for the brands. I cannot really comment on quality as it's my first cycle and I can't compare it to anything else. The anavar however seems to be working well considering a lot of people say they don't really feel anything below 40mg... Once again could be because I'm a first time user and the fact that I'm inexperienced with these things. These wonderful new effects I'm feeling could be nothing compared to what others are feeling lol. I am enjoying it though

Hoosain wrote: Just a little update. I am currently on holiday but training much better since I have no work and school runs taking up time. No rushing a session and no need to cut short due to time.

Yesterday did the usual run and had to stop once again due to calf pumps. Hit the weights and absolutely loved the chest pumps. First time I really felt a chest pump like that.
I spent the day at the beach on the boogie board as well as some time jumping on the trampolines with the kids. Could even feel muscle pumps from such light activity. Loving the anavar so far.

Today did cycling instead of running and eventually my quads were also pumped like crazy.
Did legs this morning and felt like the best leg day ever!

Quite impressed with the effects from such a low dose, could be because I'm a first time user. Will up dose to 40mg after Saturday.

As for the test, not sure how exactly I will know when it's kicking in. From what I read and heard it will kick in after 4 weeks. I'm just not sure how exactly I will know.

As for the brands. I cannot really comment on quality as it's my first cycle and I can't compare it to anything else. The anavar however seems to be working well considering a lot of people say they don't really feel anything below 40mg... Once again could be because I'm a first time user and the fact that I'm inexperienced with these things. These wonderful new effects I'm feeling could be nothing compared to what others are feeling lol. I am enjoying it though

Hey man really liking the slow approach on a cycle. I'm currently on 300mg test e per week and 600mg eq per week, been an incredible cycle in terms of putting on lean muscle mass and I'm currently about 10%bf, I'm looking at finishing the cycle off with anavar at about 60mg ED for 5 weeks. What is your opinion about the Genetic anavar? I'm currently undecided between Genetic or PGW anavar

Hey buddy, as a first time user I honestly think I'm the wrong person to ask.

But it feels as if it's working for me on 20mg. My source is a more experienced user and he loves it. He is currently at 60mg per day.

He mentioned to me that pgw and lp orals are definitely the highest quality, but rated Genitec as a good brand in comparison. He says it's probably one of the best he has used at a fraction of the cost of the top brands.

One more word about cost and i will ban you both.

Hoosain wrote: Hey buddy, as a first time user I honestly think I'm the wrong person to ask.

But it feels as if it's working for me on 20mg. My source is a more experienced user and he loves it. He is currently at 60mg per day.

He mentioned to me that pgw and lp orals are definitely the highest quality, but rated Genitec as a good brand in comparison. He says it's probably one of the best he has used at a fraction of the cost of the top brands.

thanks for the info bud

Apologies oupa

Been almost a week now and I'm loving the strength increase which I'm guessing is the anavar. Also I'm at the beach everyday and loving the pumped up look I have all the time lol

Only downside for me is the pumps which affect me while running. My calves feel like they are going to pop! So everyday I start off running until I can't handle the pumps anymore. I get to about 2km and then have to stop. Finish of with some cycling.

One other thing I noticed is my shoulders feeling like they are being worked all the time. Don't get hectic pumps, but when doing anything involving lifting or carrying my shoulders feel as if I'm busy with a set. I am thinking this has something to do with the anavar?

Oh and test I can't say I'm feeling it, but is it too early for a libido increase? Could it just be placebo or because I have extra energy being on holiday? The lady has her hands full with me taking every opportunity I get lol.

Hoosain , nothing better than good quality Anavar pump haha for some reason my libido is sky high as soon as I add anavar to my test. I have used many different Anavar and all the good quality Anavar gives amazing pumps and blood flow.

Hahaha awesome combination for the Mrs then

Later today will do the second pin. Kind of excited to pin... This after being scared of needles not so long ago lol

just a little up date. strength has really gone up quite a bit.
when doing the usual amount of sets i don't feel as tired when leaving the gym, in fact feel like i only did half a session LOL
don't want to go too heavy though as i don't want to risk injuring myself

i know that anavar normally does this with the strength. i'm on 40mg per day now and will be upping to 60mg as of tomorrow.
still loving the pumps and hopefully they don't become unbearable on 60mg

still not sure how i will know when the test is doing it's thing, but i can tell my libido has definitely gone up. struggling to keep my eyes off the ladies at work as well hahaha

muscles look and feel fuller, not to mention i am starting to see quite a bit of definition.
mid section is feeling alot tighter as well... cant wait to see and feel the difference in the next few weeks.

have to do 3rd pin tomorrow. decided to go up to 300mg for next 2 pins and then up to 400mg after.
depending on results and sides i might bump up to 500mg.

so the past few days i have been experiencing some acid reflux.
i think i read somewhere on the forum that this might happen with orals?

other than that cycle seems to be going well. looking quite a bit leaner and muscles looking fuller.
not really a fan of the scale to monitor progress, but will weigh myself later.
mirror however shows some results and i'm happy with it.

Hoosain wrote: so the past few days i have been experiencing some acid reflux.
i think i read somewhere on the forum that this might happen with orals?

other than that cycle seems to be going well. looking quite a bit leaner and muscles looking fuller.
not really a fan of the scale to monitor progress, but will weigh myself later.
mirror however shows some results and i'm happy with it.

Its funny that you mention that because I have also recently started my anavar from GENiTEC and have been on for about 2 weeks, also been experiencing abit of acid reflux after taking the anavar. I find that drinking a glass of water before and taking it food afterwards helps, also splitting the doses throughout the day

awesome man. will try some food afterwards

how are you finding it so far compared to other brands? i'm assuming you have tried other brands before?

oh and just a little update. definitely leaner and bigger at the same time.

decided to weigh myself and i'm now at 96,7kg. didn't even know i gained that much in the past 3-4 weeks!
will be upping calories a bit with the new weight and hopefully see some more results. super amped and loving it.

Hoosain wrote: awesome man. will try some food afterwards

how are you finding it so far compared to other brands? i'm assuming you have tried other brands before?

Ive honestly never used anavar before its my first time, so I don't realy have anything to compare it tho, however I can actually get my hands on some pharmaceutical grade anavar next year that I'm definitely keen to try. so ill use that as my guideline. but I have noticed that ive gotten leaner and stronger aswell even tho I'm busy cutting

AestheticsBruh wrote:

Hoosain wrote: awesome man. will try some food afterwards

how are you finding it so far compared to other brands? i'm assuming you have tried other brands before?

Ive honestly never used anavar before its my first time, so I don't realy have anything to compare it tho, however I can actually get my hands on some pharmaceutical grade anavar next year that I'm definitely keen to try. so ill use that as my guideline. but I have noticed that ive gotten leaner and stronger aswell even tho I'm busy cutting

that's what i love about it. getting leaner and gaining muscle at the same time.

Pharma grade sounds awesome. if i were able to get something like that i would definitely be using it over UG stuff!

Hoosain wrote:

AestheticsBruh wrote:

Hoosain wrote: awesome man. will try some food afterwards

how are you finding it so far compared to other brands? i'm assuming you have tried other brands before?

Ive honestly never used anavar before its my first time, so I don't realy have anything to compare it tho, however I can actually get my hands on some pharmaceutical grade anavar next year that I'm definitely keen to try. so ill use that as my guideline. but I have noticed that ive gotten leaner and stronger aswell even tho I'm busy cutting

that's what i love about it. getting leaner and gaining muscle at the same time.

Pharma grade sounds awesome. if i were able to get something like that i would definitely be using it over UG stuff!

Yeah I'm definitely keen to try, however I have not been disappointed by the GENiTEC anavar, strength increase while on a cut, leaner and fuller, no side effects at all

quick update.

finished the anavar last week. test is at 500mg per week.
now weighing in at 98,8kg... jusat knocking at 99's door LOL

have eaten a bit crazy in the week between xmas and new year, however back on track now.

noticed a bit of bloat which i'm assuming is from the test?
test is definitely in full swing now. notice some back pumps quite often and especially when i go swimming. feels amazing!

as for results, i have had someone approach me to ask if i'm using. good news if they suspecting it.
on the flip side, when i mentioned i'm on a cycle the guy mentioned he was also on cycle. using sust for 10 weeks. i then asked about his PCT and he asked me what that was. when i explained he needs it for recovery he told me his supplier said he should use proviron.
lucky for him he shared his cycle details and i could give him proper advice. he has now got a proper PCT and has agreed to come to me for help before going on another cycle.

Glad to see you sharing and giving back the knowledge you have learnt.

i have to pump. no use in keeping knowledge to myself and watching people do harm to themselves.

if i didn't learn from others who were willing to share i could easily have been in his shoes.

weight now up to 100.07kg

i ate like i was being paid to eat over this weekend. braai Friday and Saturday. friends wife said i look like a carnivore with all the meat on my plate HAHAHAHA

happy with the weight increase but noticed i'm not as lean as i was a week ago. think it's the crazy eating
will clean up and stay at maintenance for a bit to keep BF down

on a side note. my source was doing the same cycle with me but since i am now comfortable he said i can continue on my own and he will change up a bit. he is swopping out the test cyp for sustanon.
he is pinning every 3rd day. mentioned he likes the prop in there and also gets more test in a week

are there any real benefits to this? other than getting more test per week.
he said i could do the same if i'm comfortable with pinning more than once a week.
i am interested to try out sust, but 2 minded because it's still my first cycle.

if i do decide to go with sustanon i was thinking monday and thursday pinning. any thoughts on this?